Supercharged and electric roadrazer
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Have a butchers at this:
http://www.roadrazer.co.uk/options.htm
should be interesting / best thing since sliced bread....
http://www.roadrazer.co.uk/options.htm
should be interesting / best thing since sliced bread....
The 'prototype' was at the AutoSports show back in January. It does indeed look a very nice bit of kit, but not cheap - they were anticipating around £50K fully built, IIRC.
Interesting to see that they are now suggesting availabilty in kit form, though. Be even more interesting to see how it is priced and how it performs in reality... it looks like a serious, well-engineered and competent project, but so far we've seen lots of presentation material and specifications, but less evidence of actual ability. You'll notice, for example, that there isn't a video on the 'Gallery and Video' page, and that none of the press quotes makes reference to driving impressions.
As far as I can tell, the 'prototype' that has been hawked round the shows is just an engineless mock-up (note that the 'mechanical driving prototype' in the history section seems to be missing a wheel
), and I've seen nothing to suggest that it has actually turned a wheel in anger, yet.
Interesting to see that they are now suggesting availabilty in kit form, though. Be even more interesting to see how it is priced and how it performs in reality... it looks like a serious, well-engineered and competent project, but so far we've seen lots of presentation material and specifications, but less evidence of actual ability. You'll notice, for example, that there isn't a video on the 'Gallery and Video' page, and that none of the press quotes makes reference to driving impressions.
As far as I can tell, the 'prototype' that has been hawked round the shows is just an engineless mock-up (note that the 'mechanical driving prototype' in the history section seems to be missing a wheel
), and I've seen nothing to suggest that it has actually turned a wheel in anger, yet.Well, it loks as if there's been a lot of thought put into it. However there's a lot to do to make it SVA passable.
The weight 'target' of 300Kgs looks extremely optimistic, and I'd be on a hat diet if it could weigh in at that and pass SVA. Just for comparison the Ariel Atom has a claimed weight of 456Kgs.
The weight 'target' of 300Kgs looks extremely optimistic, and I'd be on a hat diet if it could weigh in at that and pass SVA. Just for comparison the Ariel Atom has a claimed weight of 456Kgs.
Paul Drawmer said:
Well, it loks as if there's been a lot of thought put into it. However there's a lot to do to make it SVA passable.
The weight 'target' of 300Kgs looks extremely optimistic, and I'd be on a hat diet if it could weigh in at that and pass SVA. Just for comparison the Ariel Atom has a claimed weight of 456Kgs.
Yeah, doubt it'll weigh in quite that low, but then again compared to the atom, it is all carbon fibre with ally suspension (work of art) and loads of motorbike bits which are cheap and very light. The weight 'target' of 300Kgs looks extremely optimistic, and I'd be on a hat diet if it could weigh in at that and pass SVA. Just for comparison the Ariel Atom has a claimed weight of 456Kgs.
Having said that, i wonder how much sva stuff will weigh if it's only lights and a number plate. To date i have yet to see any sva components. I am sure that he could perhaps integrate LED lights and indicators into some CF cycle wings.
Even so, concept it looks to be more similar to a LCC Rocket but modern, with modern materials. Should be a blast to drive if its anywhere near as sorted/good etc as the rocket with whatever power plant...
Looks good, but I'm never keen on the tandum seat layouts. I understand why you'd want to do it, but I just don't like them - I want to see where we're going as a passenger.
I don't like the whole 'zero emission' thing for the 'leccy motors either, but hey ho.
I do like the spin they have put on it though... the idea that the much lower noise will mean they can run on tracks and people won't moan as they run on onions and squirrel farts all whilst hugging badgers!
I was thinking the public needed a more balanced education on these things, but now I have seen a good reason for them not to be... We get road-legal racing cars to run on electric motors, they don't pay the congestion charges, people think you're a hippy and love you, and you can hammer round tracks without fear of being kicked off for being too loud!!! Amazing! I never thought I'd say it, but I am a convert!
I don't like the whole 'zero emission' thing for the 'leccy motors either, but hey ho.
I do like the spin they have put on it though... the idea that the much lower noise will mean they can run on tracks and people won't moan as they run on onions and squirrel farts all whilst hugging badgers!
I was thinking the public needed a more balanced education on these things, but now I have seen a good reason for them not to be... We get road-legal racing cars to run on electric motors, they don't pay the congestion charges, people think you're a hippy and love you, and you can hammer round tracks without fear of being kicked off for being too loud!!! Amazing! I never thought I'd say it, but I am a convert!
Sam_68 said:
The 'prototype' was at the AutoSports show back in January. It does indeed look a very nice bit of kit, but not cheap - they were anticipating around £50K fully built, IIRC.
Interesting to see that they are now suggesting availabilty in kit form, though. Be even more interesting to see how it is priced and how it performs in reality... it looks like a serious, well-engineered and competent project, but so far we've seen lots of presentation material and specifications, but less evidence of actual ability. You'll notice, for example, that there isn't a video on the 'Gallery and Video' page, and that none of the press quotes makes reference to driving impressions.
As far as I can tell, the 'prototype' that has been hawked round the shows is just an engineless mock-up (note that the 'mechanical driving prototype' in the history section seems to be missing a wheel), and I've seen nothing to suggest that it has actually turned a wheel in anger, yet.
Earlier, he was saying 19K for the kit version that did not include bike donor components and wheels (and i imagine there are a fair few) and 35K for a fully built car. So i guess that'd be 34-40K for a supercharged version kit.Interesting to see that they are now suggesting availabilty in kit form, though. Be even more interesting to see how it is priced and how it performs in reality... it looks like a serious, well-engineered and competent project, but so far we've seen lots of presentation material and specifications, but less evidence of actual ability. You'll notice, for example, that there isn't a video on the 'Gallery and Video' page, and that none of the press quotes makes reference to driving impressions.
As far as I can tell, the 'prototype' that has been hawked round the shows is just an engineless mock-up (note that the 'mechanical driving prototype' in the history section seems to be missing a wheel
), and I've seen nothing to suggest that it has actually turned a wheel in anger, yet.Set up and testing wise, to get this thing good enough for the track it couldnt take that long / much work - it's a single seater ffs. Cant be that hard to mess arround with. I bet even a group of students could have a good bash at it. I have seen a vid of it driving on youtube but it's pretty pants and he doesnt thrash it like a single seater should. Why? Apparently there are students that make formula cars as a uni project (for a race series) that get much lighter than this and without all that fancy C/f
This reminds me of all the BS that was bandied about regarding the Caparro T1 when similarly they didn't even have a complete car. It will NEVER weigh in for SVA at 300 kg. The rear passenger seat looks extremely small, personally I much prefer the Furore F1 - http://www.furorecars.co.uk looks even more the part, has already passed SVA & can be built for less than half they want just for a kit!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited by SuperT on Wednesday 18th July 13:57
Edited by SuperT on Wednesday 18th July 13:58
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