Anyone want to sell a 996 turbo to me
Anyone want to sell a 996 turbo to me
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korma007

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92 posts

232 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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i am looking for the following:

996 Turbo
02 or 03 seal / artic / polar
FSH
dark colours /silver
manual
electric / heated / memory comfort seats
sat nav and phone
rear park assist
cruise - would be nice
sunroof - def
must be 2 owners or under
must be 20,000 or under
porsche warranty
must be VERY clean and tidy car

Thanks

edinandrew

209 posts

234 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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Just use the PH classifieds, autotrader or porsche OPC website - there's a huge choice of these cars now - especially in silver - I can't understand why you're having so much difficulty

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

256 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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Why the requirement for 2 owners or less?

I would have always thought that if the car has been looked after, respected and serviced correctly then what does the number of owner's matter?

If a 3/4/5-year-old car had had 7+ owners, then I may ask questions (like why does nobody want to keep it? and what recurring problem does it have?), but I would have thought that expensive cars like that would be bought by people who regularly change their vehicle anyway. My in-laws rarely keep a car for a full year, let alone 3 or 4! smile

I bought my previous car (RX-8) pre-registered with 10 miles on the clock. I then sold it on the day of it's first service with less than 7000 miles on it. That would mean that whomever took the car on, would have been 3rd owner on a 12-month-old car.

What's wrong with that?

No offence- just curious.

POORCARDEALER

8,669 posts

272 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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At least he isnt demanding all previous tax discs!!!!!!!

guyvert1

2,164 posts

273 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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Looks like a spicy spy to me smileshoot

rob05

1,194 posts

259 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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PhantomPH said:
Why the requirement for 2 owners or less?

I would have always thought that if the car has been looked after, respected and serviced correctly then what does the number of owner's matter?

If a 3/4/5-year-old car had had 7+ owners, then I may ask questions (like why does nobody want to keep it? and what recurring problem does it have?), but I would have thought that expensive cars like that would be bought by people who regularly change their vehicle anyway. My in-laws rarely keep a car for a full year, let alone 3 or 4! smile

I bought my previous car (RX-8) pre-registered with 10 miles on the clock. I then sold it on the day of it's first service with less than 7000 miles on it. That would mean that whomever took the car on, would have been 3rd owner on a 12-month-old car.

What's wrong with that?

No offence- just curious.
No one wants to buy a car with that many owners,its just the way the buying public are.
I would never buy a car with that many owners basically because a re sale would be very hard especially on a car like this.
The guy imo is being fussy with good reason.Its very easy to buy a 50-60k car but not that easy to sell after you have had your fun unless its cheap.

DanH

12,287 posts

291 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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Lots of owners can suggest a car is a lemon, but not sure it is such a good indicator on high value luxury cars such as these...

Paracetamol

4,267 posts

275 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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PhantomPH said:
Why the requirement for 2 owners or less?

I would have always thought that if the car has been looked after, respected and serviced correctly then what does the number of owner's matter?

If a 3/4/5-year-old car had had 7+ owners, then I may ask questions (like why does nobody want to keep it? and what recurring problem does it have?), but I would have thought that expensive cars like that would be bought by people who regularly change their vehicle anyway. My in-laws rarely keep a car for a full year, let alone 3 or 4! smile

I bought my previous car (RX-8) pre-registered with 10 miles on the clock. I then sold it on the day of it's first service with less than 7000 miles on it. That would mean that whomever took the car on, would have been 3rd owner on a 12-month-old car.

What's wrong with that?

No offence- just curious.
He sounds a bit naive doesnt he! Porsches seem to get through an owner per year...mostly for 2 reasons:

1) They get bored and want a newer one or a new model
2) They buy one and realise its not going to fit in with their lives.

Edited by Paracetamol on Saturday 14th July 19:15

Crimp a Length

5,697 posts

254 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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edinandrew said:
Just use the PH classifieds, autotrader or porsche OPC website - there's a huge choice of these cars now - especially in silver - I can't understand why you're having so much difficulty
what he said yes

korma007

Original Poster:

92 posts

232 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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thanks for the replies - interesting (and valid) point about the number of owners. I am new to this porsche buying lark (first time etc so the naiieve comment was extremely accurate ;-) ), having spent many hours reading the other posts I get the impressions that there are a lot of crap 911 Turbos out there and I want to reduce the chance of not being able to sell it on in future and thus taking a bath on the depreciation (rather than just a shower!) Maybe the number of owners doesnt matter. Is it really the case that people change their cars every year? I finde it hard to believe anyone can ever get bored with these things. I drove one for the fist time a week ago and am still shaking!!

Anyway, back to the original question....... does anyone have a good one (# of owners doesn't matter!) that they would like to sell me?!?

edinandrew

209 posts

234 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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korma007 said:
Anyway, back to the original question....... does anyone have a good one (# of owners doesn't matter!) that they would like to sell me?!?
Back to the original answers - just search the classifieds and go and look at a few - it's just like buying a house - the market dictates the price and the only way you get a feel for what you can get/afford is by looking and looking. I'm afraid you have to put a bit of effort in to this if you're serious about it and religiously search the classifieds - some people search for months till they find the car they like. I'm not in the market for a TT but from being a saddo and looking at all sorts you'll be nearer £50k for a car with sub 20k mileage and that spec - especially an 03 car. I may be mistaken but I believe the nav units were upgraded on the 03 cars to PCM2 and theremay have been other changes which will make it more pricey - the cheaper 02 cars will have PCM1 and maybe less standard extras. Someone else more in the know may be able to confirm this. Anyway, just get out there and get looking - that's half the fun IMHO. Just my 2p. P.S. By asking people on here if they have a good one is just like putting your trust in any private seller - don't take it for granted you're going to get a good recommendation on a public chat forum.

Wanta996

5,622 posts

238 months

Saturday 14th July 2007
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Agree with edinandrew - all TT owners on the forum dont have a bad thing to say about any of there cars which i find hard to believe as at least once a week there is someone complaining about something thats gone wrong and wondering if the OPC warranty will cover it or not.I agree its a great car but a £90k car comes with £90k servicing & running bills,i would take an OPC example out for a test drive as a used benchmark like i did BUT found it impossible to find one used under £42k that felt as good - OPC's 111 point check usually weeds out the dodgy examples,taking someones word for it is not a good idea.

As for number owners? The more owners a car has the more different personalities,driving habits and more importantly your odds of one of the 5 owners having clocked the cars mileage increases.

ukwill

10,278 posts

238 months

Sunday 15th July 2007
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Wanta996 said:
Agree with edinandrew - all TT owners on the forum dont have a bad thing to say about any of there cars which i find hard to believe as at least once a week there is someone complaining about something thats gone wrong and wondering if the OPC warranty will cover it or not.I agree its a great car but a £90k car comes with £90k servicing & running bills,i would take an OPC example out for a test drive as a used benchmark like i did BUT found it impossible to find one used under £42k that felt as good - OPC's 111 point check usually weeds out the dodgy examples,taking someones word for it is not a good idea.

As for number owners? The more owners a car has the more different personalities,driving habits and more importantly your odds of one of the 5 owners having clocked the cars mileage increases.
Do you think there is a conspiracy perpetuated by the forums TT owners to feed misinformation about the model? It's as if you really want to read about TT owners slating the car.

Perhaps it's just the case that the TT *is* actually a pretty decent car that doesn't have any major flaws?

If I don't like a car I will happily say so, as I'm sure most other owners on here would. There are also plenty on here who have owned a TT and now own something else. There would be no reason for them not to slate the car if they didn't enjoy their ownership experience. Yet you don't see any of that.

Are you going to be buying a 996 anytime soon?

korma007

Original Poster:

92 posts

232 months

Sunday 15th July 2007
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edinandrew said:
korma007 said:
Anyway, back to the original question....... does anyone have a good one (# of owners doesn't matter!) that they would like to sell me?!?
I may be mistaken but I believe the nav units were upgraded on the 03 cars to PCM2 and theremay have been other changes which will make it more pricey - the cheaper 02 cars will have PCM1 and maybe less standard extras. Someone else more in the know may be able to confirm this.
Does anyone know more about this? What month in 03 was the upgrade and also, does anyone know what the other "extras" were?

edinandrew

209 posts

234 months

Sunday 15th July 2007
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I never said the TT was a bad car ukwill. All I commented on was that a private sale is a private sale regardless and that unless he gets it properly checked out then it wouldn't matter too much where the recommendation came from - some PH owners may not even know their car had a problem until it was checked and would sell it in good faith. I would love a TT but couldn't make use of the power in my day to day driving so can't justify ...... unless that is that most people on here are in the same position and just buy it because it is a turbo and they look good in it! (awaits flames aplenty)

Testarossa

1,050 posts

252 months

Sunday 15th July 2007
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I don't think he was talking to you mate.

ukwill

10,278 posts

238 months

Sunday 15th July 2007
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edinandrew said:
I never said the TT was a bad car ukwill. All I commented on was that a private sale is a private sale regardless and that unless he gets it properly checked out then it wouldn't matter too much where the recommendation came from - some PH owners may not even know their car had a problem until it was checked and would sell it in good faith. I would love a TT but couldn't make use of the power in my day to day driving so can't justify ...... unless that is that most people on here are in the same position and just buy it because it is a turbo and they look good in it! (awaits flames aplenty)
My response was to the poster I quoted. wink

Just to reiterate, if the TT had any major gremlins, the information would be freely accessible from within this forums community. I agree that any potential owner should have a PPI carried out. I think it would be sheer madness not to.

ukwill

10,278 posts

238 months

Sunday 15th July 2007
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korma007 said:
edinandrew said:
korma007 said:
Anyway, back to the original question....... does anyone have a good one (# of owners doesn't matter!) that they would like to sell me?!?
I may be mistaken but I believe the nav units were upgraded on the 03 cars to PCM2 and theremay have been other changes which will make it more pricey - the cheaper 02 cars will have PCM1 and maybe less standard extras. Someone else more in the know may be able to confirm this.
Does anyone know more about this? What month in 03 was the upgrade and also, does anyone know what the other "extras" were?
Korma, the PCM upgrade started with 52 plate cars, however there are some examples of 52 plate cars having PCM1, (generally a few of the very early ones).

"Search" is your friend. You will find a veritable goldmine of TT-based information within this forums archives. I know I looked through past posts when I joined, I'm certain that many others have used it to their advantage.

Good luck in your hunt. smile

Edited by ukwill on Sunday 15th July 16:56

Wetwipe

3,019 posts

244 months

Sunday 15th July 2007
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korma007 said:
edinandrew said:
korma007 said:
Anyway, back to the original question....... does anyone have a good one (# of owners doesn't matter!) that they would like to sell me?!?
I may be mistaken but I believe the nav units were upgraded on the 03 cars to PCM2 and theremay have been other changes which will make it more pricey - the cheaper 02 cars will have PCM1 and maybe less standard extras. Someone else more in the know may be able to confirm this.
Does anyone know more about this? What month in 03 was the upgrade and also, does anyone know what the other "extras" were?
there were two "facelifts" on the turbo

the first was in the 2002 (51 onwards) model year when various bits n bobs were fitted, such as a cupholder in the centre dash and a glove box

2003 model year (52 onwards) saw introduction of the pcm2 sat nav unit and items fitted as standard such as auto wipers and auto dimming rear view mirrors.

as previos posters have said. get out there and look at a few cars. when i bought mine i spent ages trawling the classifieds because i wanted a decent spec. for a 90k car it is surprising how many have povery spec such as no nav, no heated seats etc.

i really think mine is there perfect spec. it was strange as i had seen it advertised for a while and never looked at it as it was silver and the last coluor i was looking for was silver.

nevertheless, with 50k burning a hole in my pocket i went and had a look and i was smitten. couldnt imagine wanting anyother colour now biggrin

so the moral of the story is:

1) get out there and look at some
2) trawl the classifieds regularly
3)dont get too hung up on colours (because you will discount some excellent cars)
4) dont discount OPC cars. their prices may look steep BUT they may also be SOR cars meaning there is a possible deal to do.

Good luck chum

guyvert1

2,164 posts

273 months

Sunday 15th July 2007
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If I can't shake the 993TT demons off my back mine maybe up quicker than I'd planned for.. PM if you want details...