Night time F1 race gets the green light...
Night time F1 race gets the green light...
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motormania

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1,143 posts

282 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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What do people think of the idea that we are going to get night races from next year in F1?

Have been to the BTCC race which ran at night, but does it come across on the box?

I seem to think most drivers are against it, but the sportscar guys/girls seem to cope with night racing which is normally much darker than what the F1 guys will have to deal with.

I wonder if we shall see any lighting on the cars, or will they relie solely on fecking huge lighting systems trackside...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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any links?

I'd be up for it - no too sure the sponsors will be happy though

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

238 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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motormania said:
What do people think of the idea that we are going to get night races from next year in F1?

Have been to the BTCC race which ran at night, but does it come across on the box?

I seem to think most drivers are against it, but the sportscar guys/girls seem to cope with night racing which is normally much darker than what the F1 guys will have to deal with.

I wonder if we shall see any lighting on the cars, or will they relie solely on fecking huge lighting systems trackside...
If they are going to put up huge trackside lights and light the track up like its daylight, then whats the Fcensored point of a night time race.

Fitting lights to the cars and driving them in the dark is the challenge, but TV coverage is goint to be shite!

A blur of headlamps and thats it.
Not a good spectator sport, bit like submarine racing.

uriel

3,244 posts

280 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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odyssey2200 said:
If they are going to put up huge trackside lights and light the track up like its daylight, then whats the Fcensored point of a night time race.

Fitting lights to the cars and driving them in the dark is the challenge, but TV coverage is goint to be shite!

A blur of headlamps and thats it.
Not a good spectator sport, bit like submarine racing.
I think the point is that Bernie can take the sport to rich countries on the other side of the world while still keeping up European viewing figures (got to keep the sponsors happy) by having the race run midday Europe-time.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

238 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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uriel said:
odyssey2200 said:
If they are going to put up huge trackside lights and light the track up like its daylight, then whats the Fcensored point of a night time race.

Fitting lights to the cars and driving them in the dark is the challenge, but TV coverage is goint to be shite!

A blur of headlamps and thats it.
Not a good spectator sport, bit like submarine racing.
I think the point is that Bernie can take the sport to rich countries on the other side of the world while still keeping up European viewing figures (got to keep the sponsors happy) by having the race run midday Europe-time.
Yeah coz Bernie obviously needs the money......

IainT

10,040 posts

267 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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odyssey2200 said:
motormania said:
What do people think of the idea that we are going to get night races from next year in F1?

Have been to the BTCC race which ran at night, but does it come across on the box?

I seem to think most drivers are against it, but the sportscar guys/girls seem to cope with night racing which is normally much darker than what the F1 guys will have to deal with.

I wonder if we shall see any lighting on the cars, or will they relie solely on fecking huge lighting systems trackside...
If they are going to put up huge trackside lights and light the track up like its daylight, then whats the Fcensored point of a night time race.

Fitting lights to the cars and driving them in the dark is the challenge, but TV coverage is goint to be shite!

A blur of headlamps and thats it.
Not a good spectator sport, bit like submarine racing.
Absolutely 100% right.

Pointless doing it with massive lighting and dull to watch without.

Yet more Ecclestone cash grabbing with no real care for the racing spectacle.

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

285 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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To all these people who keep saying 'fit lights to the cars and run them in the 'proper' dark'

Just how the hell do you think you'd fit lighting systems to a bloody F1 car???

Come on, get real! They're single seaters, not GT or touring cars, they're never going to have lights fitted to them. So the circuits will need to be floodlit.

However, before writing night racing off immediately, think about the atmosphere it will create. And as for the driving being the same as driving in the daytime, is it the same when you're driving along the motorway under the lights then? No, it isn't.

The drivers will have different perspectives of corners and each other as there will be shadows being cast everywhere. As for the sponsors, why won't they be happy? Hasn't anyone else seen that it works in the US for NASCAR and the illuminous branding that's used on 'Ring 24 and Le Mans cars would look fantastic on a GP car.

cptsideways

13,880 posts

281 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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odyssey2200 said:
bit like submarine racing.
roflroflroflroflroflrofl

bruh_la

319 posts

283 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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You are all asuming a night race will be in the dark. Its light till 10 pm at the moment.....

As has been mentioned, its to get top dollar paying circuits to be seen at reasonable times in Europe.

On a side note, i forget which one but the grand prix which was early evening for us was far better than the usual time. At two on a sunday i would rather be out in my Lotus than in front of the telly. To watch the grand prix live early evening would suit me far more.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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But to get a GP on in the evening in Europe, you need to go West. Bernie is marching ever Eastward in search of new money.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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Not a clever move if F1 wants to parade its "green" credentials.

A barking mad idea that sums up just about everything insane about the direction BE is taking F1.

clubracing

385 posts

235 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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Eric Mc said:
A barking mad idea that sums up just about everything insane about the direction BE is taking F1.
Completely agree. I hate Bernie Ecclestone.mad

bruh_la

319 posts

283 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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Eric Mc said:
Not a clever move if F1 wants to parade its "green" credentials.

A barking mad idea that sums up just about everything insane about the direction BE is taking F1.
Whats worse from a green perspective?

uriel

3,244 posts

280 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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bruh_la said:
Eric Mc said:
A barking mad idea that sums up just about everything insane about the direction BE is taking F1.
Completely agree. I hate Bernie Ecclestone.mad
Sunlight vs the huge amount of electricity required to adequately floodlight a 2+ mile F1 circuit, I'd imagine.

Edited by uriel on Monday 16th July 22:21

bruh_la

319 posts

283 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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uriel said:
bruh_la said:
Eric Mc said:
A barking mad idea that sums up just about everything insane about the direction BE is taking F1.
Completely agree. I hate Bernie Ecclestone.mad
Sunlight vs the huge amount of electricity required to adequately floodlight a 2+ mile F1 circuit, I'd imagine.

Edited by uriel on Monday 16th July 22:21
Why would you need floodlights..........Night race does not mean it has to be in the dark!

PherBoy

77 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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give the drivers nightvision goggles and let em have at it!

bruh_la

319 posts

283 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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....not a bad idea. We could watch with night vision cameras, it would give it a more combative feel!

But seriouly.... http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns18905.html


Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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The concept is all right (in a way) if the race could be run under natural daylight condition. However, all the talk up to now had been about floodlit races.

My suggestion is to build tracks near Spitzbergen and at McMurdo Sound. That means races could take place at either end of the season at any time of the day in daylight as both tracks would be in zones which get 6 months of continual sunlight.

bruh_la

319 posts

283 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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or if the race is actually in the dark then a city is lit anyway, so a city race in the dark would be ok.....

....i think its better than getzting up in the middle of the night to watch and may add a twist.

Hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

269 months

Wednesday 18th July 2007
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Absolute rubbish idea. How the hell can they illuminate an entire GP circuit, and why bother in the first place?

Night races are for the bullrings of the USA, not for F1!