Cerb with super charger?

[parklanejames]

can it be done?or maybe n.o.s? has any one done it.

[Extra 300 Driver]

parklanejames said:

can it be done?or maybe n.o.s? has any one done it.

I have never heard of a supercharged Cerd before, intresting though.

[BCA]

Yes and yes...

Theres been two (IIRC) 4.2's supercharged over in Belgium I think... one was for sale about two years ago and talked about on here. There is also a 5.5litre AJP being built with a supercharger at the moment in the UK for a PH'er - his name is Cambell but I cant remember his PH name.

Theres atleast two 4.5's that have had this treatment successfully, Craig is the man to talk to, his PH name is NitroCerb or something similar. The aformentioned 5.5AJP supercharged used to be a Nitrous fuelled 4.5 - I think Cambell has some severe mental issues that I cant help but applaud, oh and serious balls!!

I'd argue a remapped 4.5 with induction and exhaust is just about the limit for a Cerbera on road tyres in terms of useable power due to traction, thankfully people are less sensible than me though...

[Gazzab]

I met an AA man the other day who reckoned he used to have a 4.2 Cerbera in yellow that was supercharged. He did then suggest that the 4.5 Cerb engine wasnt an AJP unit. So suddenly he sounded like he was in bull land.

[GreenV8S]

Gazzab said:

He did then suggest that the 4.5 Cerb engine wasnt an AJP unit.

TVR stopped using the AJP designation early on, perhaps this is what he was getting at?

[touching cloth]

I was flirting with the idea of a supercharger recently (and was flirting with nitrous before that) - think the costs of supercharging would be more than my initial guestimations (mainly due to it all being a bit of a learning curve) so have probably ruled it out. Big rebuild for mine next year hopefully to 4.7 instead (and probably more insurance friendly )

[SXS]

To date there is only one running supercharged cerb, it was done over in Belgium.

Here in the UK there are numerous projects still being completed, and the ones that have been completed have gone back to the drawing board with failures. But people dont like to talk about failures. So in truthfulness, no matter which TVR, or which camp, the supercharged TVR's from the Griff/Chima to the Cerbera to the Tuscan to the T350 are not running. Call it development, or consider it an expensive route for power with these engines, whatever suits you sir.

TouchingCloth hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer, it surely is a costly business.

IMO...
4.7 then NOS is the best way forward, I should have listened to Craig (NitroCerb) yonks back! he bloody knew what he was talking about! (grrrr, hate that mad scotsman, he's always right)

Edited by SXS on Tuesday 17th July 13:52

[Seasider]

SXS said:

So in truthfulness, no matter which TVR, or which camp, ALL supercharged TVR's from the Chimaera to the Cerbera to the Tuscan to the T350 are not running. Call it development, or consider it an expensive route for power with these engines, whatever suits you sir.

Very sweeping statement Ash & i think you'd better check your facts

[SXS]

Seasider said:

SXS said:

So in truthfulness, no matter which TVR, or which camp, ALL supercharged TVR's from the Chimaera to the Cerbera to the Tuscan to the T350 are not running. Call it development, or consider it an expensive route for power with these engines, whatever suits you sir.

Very sweeping statement Ash & i think you'd better check your facts

Did the supercharged chimeara not blow up on the track? well if its back up and running then I'll retract that comment.


And before I get corrected again, by ALL I meant:
Chimaeras, Griffiths, Cerberas up to the latest models.
This does not include the older ones...

Edited by SXS on Tuesday 17th July 12:12

[Seasider]

Two live 500 yds from me

[GreenV8S]

SXS said:

So in truthfulness, no matter which TVR, or which camp, ALL supercharged TVR's from the Chimaera to the Cerbera to the Tuscan to the T350 are not running.

You seem to be implying that this range of models covers all supercharged TVRs. It doesn't, of course.

Also, I don't know how many TVR Power supercharged TVRs are on the road but given they have been offering this conversion for some while I'd be surprised if the answer was none.

[SXS]

GreenV8S said:

SXS said:

So in truthfulness, no matter which TVR, or which camp, ALL supercharged TVR's from the Chimaera to the Cerbera to the Tuscan to the T350 are not running.

You seem to be implying that this range of models covers all supercharged TVRs. It doesn't, of course.

Also, I don't know how many TVR Power supercharged TVRs are on the road but given they have been offering this conversion for some while I'd be surprised if the answer was none.

Which is why I corrected the statement earlier, please look back

Ok, lets get a list of supercharged chimaeras then! I was under the impression only one was done.

[BCA]

3 Supercharged Chims atleast
1 Supercharged Griffith
1 Twin turbocharged Griffith
1 Supercharged Cerbera (so far)
1 Supercharged Tuscan (so far)

[SXS]

BCA said:

3 Supercharged Chims atleast
1 Supercharged Griffith
1 Twin turbocharged Griffith
1 Supercharged Cerbera (so far)
1 Supercharged Tuscan (so far)

3 supercharged chims? who owns them?
Twin turbo griffith is well known.
1 supercharged tuscan, its off the roads currently, no dyno charts released, so it shouldnt be considered 100% complete IMO.

[SXS]

What would be really interesting is the dyno charts to show the power characteristics of cars such as the twin-turbo griffith, speed 12, 5 litre cerberas, and supercharged newer models.... no matter how hard you shout, no one wants to share publically disclose them... oh well... I'll stick a blower into some rust bucket and take pictures and say I've got a supercharged rust bucket.

[GreenV8S]

While I agree it would be interesting to know all this stuff, the fact that you don't know isn't proof that the cars don't exist or aren't on the road. I don't see how you can justify your claim that there aren't any on the road, unless you believe you already know about all of them. It's hard to see how you could know that without a lot of research, and your questions give the impression that you're trying to find out rather than already know the answer. If that's the case, isn't your original post basically speculation?

[StefT]

A black supercharged Chim passed me whilst I was on the way to Supercar Sunday at Gaydon last month. It sounded awesome, like a Spitfire, when it came howling past me and then turned up at the show later on. Lovely looking thing inside it was too!

[Steve_T]

SXS said:

BCA said:

3 Supercharged Chims atleast
1 Supercharged Griffith
1 Twin turbocharged Griffith
1 Supercharged Cerbera (so far)
1 Supercharged Tuscan (so far)

3 supercharged chims? who owns them?
Twin turbo griffith is well known.
1 supercharged tuscan, its off the roads currently, no dyno charts released, so it shouldnt be considered 100% complete IMO.

IM (Ian) has one of the supercharged Chims. I'm not aware who has the others, perhaps they're Del's neighbours?

Edited by Steve_T on Tuesday 17th July 18:02

[BCA]

Steve_T said:

SXS said:

BCA said:

3 Supercharged Chims atleast
1 Supercharged Griffith
1 Twin turbocharged Griffith
1 Supercharged Cerbera (so far)
1 Supercharged Tuscan (so far)

3 supercharged chims? who owns them?
Twin turbo griffith is well known.
1 supercharged tuscan, its off the roads currently, no dyno charts released, so it shouldnt be considered 100% complete IMO.

IM (Ian) has one of the supercharged Chims. I'm not aware who has the others, perhaps they're Del's neighbours?

Edited by Steve_T on Tuesday 17th July 18:02

TVR power have atleast three/ thier customers do as they had a recent track test drive with a 4.0, a 4.5 and a 5.0 SC... The SuperGriff races in the TVRCC challenge IIRC, the TT Griff is currently a mystery to me, but it used to run every year at the speed trials and I could have sworn the Tuscan was on the road but its owner was overseas...

I agree though Ash, I'd love to know more too, I cant help but get completely sucked in to all these projects - cant wait to do some of my own when time/cash permits! I'd love to know so much more, im very much so someone who craves to know exact details/ whats been done/how.

Come on people, more details please!!!

[TooTall Paul]

SXS said:

What would be really interesting is the dyno charts to show the power characteristics of cars such as the twin-turbo griffith, speed 12, 5 litre cerberas, and supercharged newer models.... no matter how hard you shout, no one wants to share publically disclose them... oh well... I'll stick a blower into some rust bucket and take pictures and say I've got a supercharged rust bucket.

SHOUT !!



You only had to ask

Like you say it would be interesting to see more dyno charts, mines going in to Joo's this friday for a final fettle before fighting Torque, so i'm hoping for good results again

Cheers Paul