H.I.D Lights

[markh1]

I have seen a kit by APS for about £200.

Has anyone fitted this kit?

I will be installing it on a cerb with the original lights, will they be the correct beam pattern?

I have been speaking to GPR racing and they offer no warranty on them if they break. Should I avoid??

Thanks in advance

Mark

[Steve_T]

Two things. Firstly, what's the manufacturer's warranty - just because the seller doesn't provide one doesn't mean you're not covered. Secondly, if you're buying from a trader, then the contract is with them and the sale of goods act applies - i.e. that "there is an implied term that the goods supplied under the contract are reasonably fit for that purpose". You would have legal recourse if the lights gave up the ghost under normal usage in a very short time. So if you have someone telling you no warranty, they're really telling you IMHO, once we've got your money, we won't help you. If that's what they said to me, I'd look elsewhere.

Steve.

Edited by Steve_T on Tuesday 17th July 13:15

[dkennedyvxt]

markh1 said:

I have seen a kit by APS for about £200.

Has anyone fitted this kit?

I will be installing it on a cerb with the original lights, will they be the correct beam pattern?

I have been speaking to GPR racing and they offer no warranty on them if they break. Should I avoid??

Thanks in advance

Mark

Mark do you have the link to view the lights?

[markh1]

Thanks for that Steve,

I have found another kit from http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=44

This company offers a two year guarantee.

I have not yet decided whether I am going to go for it or not.

[markh1]

sorry I dont have the link to view the lights from GPR, aparently they are made in the far east. I am going to avoid these ones and go for the one from the company I mentioned in my second post which are UK made and have a 2 year warranty.

[dean_ratpac]

markh1 said:

Thanks for that Steve,

I have found another kit from http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=44

This company offers a two year guarantee.

I have not yet decided whether I am going to go for it or not.

i have the hids4u kit fitted, excellent advice, and amazing light now...., next job is to directly feed off the battery.

Dean

[markh1]

Dean,

Why are you going for a direct feed from the battery? I asked the sellers if you needed a direct feed from the battery and they said no.

Cheers,

Mark

[AlVal]

Quote from the department of transport:

In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadla...

[dean_ratpac]

markh1 said:

Dean,

Why are you going for a direct feed from the battery? I asked the sellers if you needed a direct feed from the battery and they said no.

Cheers,

Mark

Hi Mark, the sellers assume that the cerb has great wiring... quite the opposite, it works fine - but i get the odd flicker, and when you follow how it gets to the lights and back and forth, and the quality of the cable you'll be amazed and a little shocked. TopCats rewired mine so i have the HID's on dipped beam, and when i flash they remain on.. the control box was switching them off and on.. some time to come back to full power.

would recommend getting them, but you'll have to align the height etc, as they're bright. go for the 6000K, anymore you'll get the nice colour change, but the 'brightness' will suffer.
hope this helps.

[dean_ratpac]

AlVal said:

Quote from the department of transport:

In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadla...

my hella light pods are exactly the same as the units used if you by no HID and HID, they're also aligned to MOT standards. i think this might apply to certain vehicles. DOn't get flashed, and when the police have pulled me over the lights are on and never been an issue.

[morebeanz]

Are there Xenon kits for the pod style lights too? I always thought that some of the later Cerbs and Tuscans had Xenons - was I wrong or are there original equipment kits?

[Ireland]

alinton on here has fitted them.

He may be worth a PM

[dean_ratpac]

morebeanz said:

Are there Xenon kits for the pod style lights too? I always thought that some of the later Cerbs and Tuscans had Xenons - was I wrong or are there original equipment kits?

MB when you say pod do you mean the single headlight or the twin hellas? in fact there are kits for both.

[jbvipercerb]

AlVal said:

Quote from the department of transport:

In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadla...

Hmmm Ive recently put a HID kit in my car, its got the quad lights fitted. After I fitted the kit I put it on headlamp beam setter myself and the beam pattern was perfect, it was brighter and sharper than before, but exactly the same shape, no odd patches or anything!

[morebeanz]

dean_ratpac said:

morebeanz said:

Are there Xenon kits for the pod style lights too? I always thought that some of the later Cerbs and Tuscans had Xenons - was I wrong or are there original equipment kits?

MB when you say pod do you mean the single headlight or the twin hellas? in fact there are kits for both.

I meant the twin Hellas. Most of the talk of HID upgrades revolves around the single job, and I wasn't sure if one existed for the twin light set up...

[cerbymad]

track car have these upgrades. http://www.track-car-solutions.co.uk/

[FarmyardPants]

morebeanz said:

dean_ratpac said:

morebeanz said:

Are there Xenon kits for the pod style lights too? I always thought that some of the later Cerbs and Tuscans had Xenons - was I wrong or are there original equipment kits?

MB when you say pod do you mean the single headlight or the twin hellas? in fact there are kits for both.

I meant the twin Hellas. Most of the talk of HID upgrades revolves around the single job, and I wasn't sure if one existed for the twin light set up...

Hi Ian, yes any generic HID kit will fit the quad lights as a direct replacement for the halogen bulbs. This works better than it does on the original MG style lights because the beam pattern is dictated by a metal mask in front of the lens rather than by the reflector and cup of the H4's, so you get a razor sharp cutoff. The quad lights are H7's all round. You can HIDify all 4, although halogens are better for flashing people due to the warm-up time of the xenons. There's plenty of space in the wheel arch cavity for the ballast boxes.

I would recommend this upgrade to anyone with halogen quad lights. So much better than the filament bulbs. 6000K is good, I think 5000K is better if you have the choice (higher light output in the visible spectrum and without the cyan hue).

Edited to add: I see that http://www.lglights.com currently have them at looney prices (CAD$79 for a pair). I bought 2 sets last year, they work well and the kit comes with everything you need and then some. The only caveat is that one of the 4 that I bought from them started flickering after 6 months, so I bought another set. Can't go too far wrong at that price tho.

Edited by FarmyardPants on Wednesday 18th July 20:08

[AlVal]

oh , and of course 2001 cars on will be illegal without self levelling and washer units, right? those are the issues that put me off! I'm mainly concerned about the early big round shapes being converted illegaly, i think youd have a better chance of coming within legal limits with the later zitface style lights.

[JensenA]

I regard my standard lights as a welcome 'Slow down you can't see' safety measure for night time driving on unfamiliar B roads

[TRP]

AlVal said:

oh , and of course 2001 cars on will be illegal without self levelling and washer units, right? those are the issues that put me off! I'm mainly concerned about the early big round shapes being converted illegaly, i think youd have a better chance of coming within legal limits with the later zitface style lights.

Yes and any retrofit HID system must also have ECE spec self levelling and a washer unit or it is illegal.