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tomkidd

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197 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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How do.

Im looking into sprinting and hillclimbing and a good mate has an unused karting suit, it says CIK 150 on it... is this use any good for what I might use it for?

Galileo

3,147 posts

247 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Don't think so mate. I'm sure its got to be FIA approved to meet MSA regulations, assuming the sprints are running under MSA rules and regs.

Naked

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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I thought mine might be ok for circuit racing but the scruitineer said it would't be allowed because its not fire-proof.

tomkidd

Original Poster:

197 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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so karting suits arent fire proof?

Naked

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Apparently not to the standard of car racing ones. This guy was the top scruitineer in Scotland, he knows his stuff.

Ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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tomkidd said:
so karting suits arent fire proof?
No. They also have a label on them saying they're not approved for car racing, or words to that effect.

tomkidd

Original Poster:

197 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Cheers guys

peterh2

539 posts

260 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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The karting suits are fire retardant but not fire proof. The karting ones are also designed to offer some protection should you come out of the kart. They are totally different to the racing suits used in cars and should not be used for car racing / single seater racing etc.

Also please remember that you cannot wash proper car racing suits they have to be dry cleaned in a specific way in order to remain fireproof - please make sure whoever you get to dry clean the suit realises this.

Naked

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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chris_tivver said:
(I am not connected to that company, thats where I got my 2nd suit from, I reckon it was better value than the Sparco one I had first).
Personally I have a Sparco suit and for me, whatever is good enough for Formula 1 drivers is good enough for me! As with a helmet you shouldn't cut corners with safety equipement. I was laughed at by a now pro racing driver for wearing a 3 nomex suit and nomex underwear for my ARDS course! Cock! He maybe my countryman but I certainly won't cheer him on!

Dan Friel

4,218 posts

307 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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You need at least a proban suit for hillclimbs (or expensive nomex which can also be used for racing). The relevant requirements are given in the MSA Blue Book or a decent company like AWS will provide professional advice.

peterh2

539 posts

260 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Naked said:
Personally I have a Sparco suit and for me, whatever is good enough for Formula 1 drivers is good enough for me! As with a helmet you shouldn't cut corners with safety equipement. I was laughed at by a now pro racing driver for wearing a 3 nomex suit and nomex underwear for my ARDS course! Cock! He maybe my countryman but I certainly won't cheer him on!
To be fair on an ARDS course you shouldn't be driving hard enough to risk crashing. An ARDS test is not a test of your driving skill its simply to test that your safe, aware of what's going on and can drive at a speed whereby you wont be a chicane to other drivers.

Naked

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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peterh2 said:
Naked said:
Personally I have a Sparco suit and for me, whatever is good enough for Formula 1 drivers is good enough for me! As with a helmet you shouldn't cut corners with safety equipement. I was laughed at by a now pro racing driver for wearing a 3 nomex suit and nomex underwear for my ARDS course! Cock! He maybe my countryman but I certainly won't cheer him on!
To be fair on an ARDS course you shouldn't be driving hard enough to risk crashing. An ARDS test is not a test of your driving skill its simply to test that your safe, aware of what's going on and can drive at a speed whereby you wont be a chicane to other drivers.
I know that, but as Steve Deeks suggested on the "Go Racing" video, you should wear them.

simonelite501

1,440 posts

297 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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What size are you? I have a Proban suit for sale very cheaply, worn once, selling because I now need a 3 layer Nomex suit.

tomkidd

Original Poster:

197 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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I am 5'9" and about 11 stone...

simonelite501

1,440 posts

297 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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The tag says its size 48, I'm 6' 0" and weigh 12 stone, so you can see it should fit you a treat. Its a single layer proban suit, I bought it to go hill climbing and sprinting, but boy was that expensive and I found after 1 race that I much prefered the auto tests and solo competitions which did not require a fire suit at all. So after one 2 lap sprint it never got worn again.
It is as new condition and has never been washed (not dirty at all!)






Hows 20 quid sound? + postage of course.

Edited by simonelite501 on Tuesday 17th July 23:02

chris_tivver

583 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th July 2007
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What you going to drive anyway?

p.s. let us know if you have any other questions

AWRacing

1,745 posts

254 months

Wednesday 18th July 2007
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peterh2 said:
Also please remember that you cannot wash proper car racing suits they have to be dry cleaned in a specific way in order to remain fireproof - please make sure whoever you get to dry clean the suit realises this.
Erm, that only applys to proban suits, nomex is a material so wont loose its fire proofing if washed. They recommend dry cleaning but it isnt completely necessary for nomex suits.

simonelite501

1,440 posts

297 months

Wednesday 18th July 2007
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Erm, the label on the above Proban suit states...........
"Washable and Dry Cleanable, do not use soap or soap powder, wash with suitable detergents only. For further advice on laundering, contact Albright and Wilson UK Ltd, owners of the Proban trademark"

tomkidd

Original Poster:

197 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th July 2007
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I'll be using my pride and joy for now, just to try and learn some circuits

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/112273618004436746...

chris_tivver

583 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th July 2007
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Most of the hill climbs and sprint venues are fairly easy to learn, at least the basics so you know whats coming next. The time to get the right line and gear/power/braking can take much longer depending on venue and driver.

Nevertheless try and start with some simple ones with lots of run-off (e.g. Stowe, Abingdon). That way you can build your confidence


I would recommend trying to do events with lots of minis (in your case) doing it with lots of same marque enables you measure yourself and is more fun just prepared to be last or near last initially. Certainly I have found it far more fun doing the TVR championship than local events

Good luck