Grade II listed buildings...
Grade II listed buildings...
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cheekymonkey

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1,139 posts

254 months

Friday 20th July 2007
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Just doing a bit of research into Grade II properties...

Say you had a Grade II listed property that requires rennovation... (moving a couple of walls / adding en-suite bathroom etc all interior works)

Say you made changes without getting listed building consent...

If you went to sell the property... how would / could you ever be pulled up for not getting the correct permissions??

How can you prove who has made any changes, and at what stage would you get pulled up?

Is there a requirement that solicitors check these permissions as part of their process?? Or would a surveyor for the bank pick something like this up??


Anyone got any experience of this?

Sam_68

9,939 posts

275 months

Friday 20th July 2007
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A lot depends on the building ad the nature of the listing, but a good surveyor will pick up a suprising amount about the date that work was underatken just by looking at the materials and building techniques used.

If the purchaser's solicitors are doing their job right, they will identify that the property is listed and may ask for a written guarantee that the proper consents were obtained for any work undertaken. If you are later discovered to have made unauthorised alterations, you would be held liable for the cost of putting things right.

Grade II listing isn't all that critical (I live in a Grade II listed cottage); so long as you aren't destroying the overall character of the place, or features specifically felt tobe important to the listing, Conservation Officers will often be quite flexible about what you can do.

RodentRacing

1,502 posts

301 months

Friday 20th July 2007
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cheekymonkey said:
How can you prove who has made any changes,
I don't think it matters who made the changes. The current owner would have to put them right if the conservation officer said so. I don't think unauthorised alterations would get past a surveyor come sale time.

cheekymonkey

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1,139 posts

254 months

Monday 23rd July 2007
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Thanks guys, so the concensus us that you would probably get pulled up in the sale process! I figured as much. frown

I am in contact with the relevant local govn't deptment but they are very, very, very slow at sorting anything out and to be honest I'm loosing patience...

hog 1

400 posts

253 months

Monday 23rd July 2007
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With so many variables, it is worth asking a local architect or builder what recent history in the area is like to get permissions before you do anything, council and conservation officers decisions vary from area to area.

pontypool

615 posts

269 months

Monday 23rd July 2007
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I have a friend who made uprgrades to his grade II listed building (although not too drastic) and come the time of sale nobody mentioned it and the transaction sailed through without it being an issue or even mentioned.

cheekymonkey

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1,139 posts

254 months

Monday 23rd July 2007
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pontypool said:
I have a friend who made uprgrades to his grade II listed building (although not too drastic) and come the time of sale nobody mentioned it and the transaction sailed through without it being an issue or even mentioned.
humm... he might have been lucky then.. guess it's not really worth the risk if you want to shift things quickly..

Thanks for the input

Leftie

11,838 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd July 2007
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Surely if any alterations can be dated in any way any decent solicitor will look for the listed building consent?

I understand the implications can be terrible, like riping it al out and puting it back as the conservation officer tells you it should be.

Whe you buy a listed building y0u sign up to getting the necessary, and sometimes painful consents ( I think the fine is £15k).