Mad gauges
Mad gauges
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cerbielee

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344 posts

236 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Hi all,not been out in the car very much due to all this water about the place! Yesterday thought id start it up to give the battery a charge! First thing i noticed was that the rev counter read about 200 rpm when clearly was about 900rpm! then it shot up to normal after 30 seconds or so! then i noticed the temp gauge wich has always over read by 10 deg was jumping about! then the scarey one was the oil pressure gauge!yikes that was over reading by 10-15 psi at cold start up about 85psi!confusednormally 70psi ish! engine runs and sounds fine! anyone had this? or any ideas whats causing this? Checked oil level too and all seems fine!
Lee

Gazzab

21,650 posts

312 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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big fuse

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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I believe that this can sometimes be caused by a deteriorating Big Fuse...

touching cloth

11,706 posts

269 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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I had this recently but think it was just general water ingress around plugs/coilpacks - big fuse was fairly new and looked fine and dandy when I had a poke about - a good blast to heat things up and all gauges returned to normal, although I do still have a bit of a misfire frown - Am surprised your oil gauge would be affected though as this is mechanical I think rather than electrical.

Steve_T

6,356 posts

302 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Oil pressure gauge has an electrical sender, that might explain.

Steve.

ridds

8,372 posts

274 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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I thought the oil and water pressure guages were capillary.

No electical part too them at all, aprat from teh back light.

Only electrical oil part is the red light on the dash and that is a switch.

gbbird

5,197 posts

274 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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suspect rev counter is the big use

satman

2,455 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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ridds said:
I thought the oil and water pressure guages were capillary.

No electical part too them at all, aprat from teh back light.

Only electrical oil part is the red light on the dash and that is a switch.
yes Changed mine recently and both definately capillary and no electrical connection except the illumination bulb...

Steve_T

6,356 posts

302 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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ridds said:
I thought the oil and water pressure guages were capillary.

No electical part too them at all, aprat from teh back light.

Only electrical oil part is the red light on the dash and that is a switch.
I had a gauge rebuilt by CAI as oil temp and oil pressure. Only one capillary was attached that I remember.

Steve.

satman

2,455 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Steve_T said:
ridds said:
I thought the oil and water pressure guages were capillary.

No electical part too them at all, apart from the back light.

Only electrical oil part is the red light on the dash and that is a switch.
I had a gauge rebuilt by CAI as oil temp and oil pressure. Only one capillary was attached that I remember.

Steve.
That would be correct, but the standard TVR gauge is Water temp and oil pressure. Water being via capillary bulb and steel tube with a springy type winding round it, and the oil is a tube with a nut to attach it to the back of the gauge on the end of it.

Steve_T

6,356 posts

302 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Sorry to labour the point. The capillary is the temperature reading (not much difference between the two in range). The oil pressure is common to both gauges and unchanged, therefore one capillary on my modified and standard gauges, not two.

Steve.

Gazzab

21,650 posts

312 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Oil light is electrical and the oil pressure gauge is mechanical.

cerbielee

Original Poster:

344 posts

236 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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How much is it for the big fuse to be done?

touching cloth

11,706 posts

269 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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About 80p for the fuse and 20 mins of your own time - even I do my own big fuses these days and I don't do that much stuff myself.

Gazzab

21,650 posts

312 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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I managed to get fernies to do it for me once - probably back in 2001. I got the AA man to give my battery a charge and drove the 3 miles from where I broke down. Managed to get them to stay open late, they fixed it for beer tokens. Since then I have done it myself. Pretty easy.
Do a search

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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be careful if your not a mechie as if you don't disconnect the battery you could short out

jonbarrett

800 posts

232 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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I think the water temperature circuit is actually a thermocouple. When you apply heat across the junction of dissimilar metals (straight wire v currly wire) you generate a small electric current which drives the dial.

Also I think the oil dial is mechanical, actually fed by the oil itself.

I just can't see why both would be fluctuating.

I suppose electrical fluctuations across the entire vehicle, such as an intermittent earth fault, could disturb the thermocouple which is is in contact with the water but only generates very small voltages.

Likewise, a general electrical fault could cause the engine to surge forcing the oil pressure high.

I'm changing my gauge this weekend and will confirm its function.