McLaren cleared!
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MrKipling43

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Stu R

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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very informative hehe

Almost Naked

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Good! I am glad!

kevin ritson

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Well sort of, according to this:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61155

Sounds like the FIA want to keep them in line for the future...

Graham

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Oh great so when and if mclaren win the championship on points they'll spend the next year in court getting thrown out....

can the wmsc do themselves for bringing the sport into disrepute..

npope

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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If it was the other way round Ferrari would have lost points as every other team would have asked them to be removed.

MrKipling43

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I want an Elise!

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Have just read the ITV report, and it seems like a fair enough verdict to me. At least (as yet!) the Championship hasn't been robbed of a good scrap !

C'mon Felipe ! thumbup

MrKipling43

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Just read that too - looks like it hasn't been resolved at all really, just delayed a bit.

kenthardy

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Don't know why they bothered to hold a meeting - this is what Bernie had already he said he hoped for before they all went to Paris!

Still pulling all the strings!


flemke

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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npope said:
If it was the other way round Ferrari would have lost points as every other team would have asked them to be removed.
Why would that be?

Dakkon

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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npope said:
If it was the other way round Ferrari would have lost points as every other team would have asked them to be removed.
And your basis for this comment is?

kenthardy

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Redmax

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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So guilty but no sanction. Good for the championship at least, I suspect Ferrari won't be happy with the verdict.

Looks like Coughlan and Stepney are next up...

npope

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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flemke said:
npope said:
If it was the other way round Ferrari would have lost points as every other team would have asked them to be removed.
Why would that be?
There have been to many teams trying to find bad in Ferrari over the years, it has always been Ferrari against many other teams. I am not saying they dont somtimes bring on them selfs but if it was on the other foot I am sure there would be a lot more people saying Ferrari should have been thrown out.

jacobyte

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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npope said:
flemke said:
npope said:
If it was the other way round Ferrari would have lost points as every other team would have asked them to be removed.
Why would that be?
There have been to many teams trying to find bad in Ferrari over the years, it has always been Ferrari against many other teams. I am not saying they dont somtimes bring on them selfs but if it was on the other foot I am sure there would be a lot more people saying Ferrari should have been thrown out.
Perhaps Ferrari should be thrown out for unnecessarily kicking up such a public stink, after they demonstrated such poor security over their own confidential information? </devil's advocate mode off>

All the other teams have to pay Ferrari in order to be allowed into F1. It is therefore no surprise that their preferential treatment puts them under closer scrutiny by their peers.

MrKipling43

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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npope said:
flemke said:
npope said:
If it was the other way round Ferrari would have lost points as every other team would have asked them to be removed.
Why would that be?
There have been to many teams trying to find bad in Ferrari over the years, it has always been Ferrari against many other teams. I am not saying they dont somtimes bring on them selfs but if it was on the other foot I am sure there would be a lot more people saying Ferrari should have been thrown out.
Yeah, because trying to find bad things about Ferrari is like trying to find a cheesy foot at a cheesy foot convention. Not hard.

For that reason they're never going to be popular and this whole thing smacked of foul play on Ferrari's part right from the beginning anyway.

Just as one example, I'd heard several rumours going round the paddock that this 'white powder' that Ferrari had found is just the talcum powder every team uses to help ease the fitting of the bag tanks. Feed a piece of information saying 'white powder found in Ferrari fuel tank area' to the mainstream media and 'bosh' you've got yourself a frenzy.

It's all just seemed too much like a set-up, riddled with factualy weirdities, like why would you take nearly a thousand page document to a photocopying shop? It would be cheaper to buy a photocopier aside from anything else!

Edited by MrKipling43 on Thursday 26th July 16:16

kevin ritson

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Redmax said:
So guilty but no sanction. Good for the championship at least, I suspect Ferrari won't be happy with the verdict.

Looks like Coughlan and Stepney are next up...
Then Ferrari may well be in trouble if Stepney goes public on his knowledge...

Mojocvh

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Friday 27th July 2007
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kevin ritson said:
Redmax said:
So guilty but no sanction. Good for the championship at least, I suspect Ferrari won't be happy with the verdict.

Looks like Coughlan and Stepney are next up...
Then Ferrari may well be in trouble if Stepney goes public on his knowledge...
smokin gun

Chrisgr31

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284 months

Friday 27th July 2007
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Didn't I read that Super Aguri had drawings of the Red Bull and Torro Rosso? They were using them as part of their campaign to have the Torro Rosso declared illegal (all seems to have gone quiet on that subject)>

However if they had those plans of the opposition why aren't they in fromt of the WMSC?

The people who have brought the sport into disrepute are those who are briefing the meida, and most of the briefing seems to be done in Italy.

Incidentially will Dtepney and Couglan ever be brought to trial, with so much media speculation and naming of names how can they ever get a fair trial?