Horses on roads - discuss!
Horses on roads - discuss!
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ganglandboss

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8,563 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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I recently started a thread about a bollocking I got off a copper in which I briefly mentioned horses shouldn't be allowed on the road. Now it has turned into a mass debate about horses and very little slagging off coppers (knobheadsfurious), so I have started a new thread on the subject.

My opinion is:-

  1. They don't pay road tax and therefore contribute to the upkeep of the roads
  2. They shit!
  3. They often uninsured against third party damage
  4. The rider is not in full control
  5. They slow down the traffic
  6. Did I mention they shit?
  7. The riders have not demonstrated to the Driving Standards Agency that they can control the beast
Opinions Please!

VladTheDad

1,086 posts

248 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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I don't think you should mass debate near horses.

HTH.

Stephanie Plum

2,797 posts

242 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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You are entitled to your opinion, but do a search - this has been done to death, and I certainly can't be arsed to get back into it.

ganglandboss

Original Poster:

8,563 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Stephanie Plum said:
You are entitled to your opinion, but do a search - this has been done to death, and I certainly can't be arsed to get back into it.
As I said in my post, I started this thread because my thread about coppers was turning into a horsey debate, therefore it is back by popular demand!

Edited by ganglandboss on Monday 30th July 18:04

greysquirrel

786 posts

258 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Roads were created for horses, they have right of way, although bloody annoying!

NWTony

3,010 posts

259 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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greysquirrel said:
Roads were created for horses, they have right of way, although bloody annoying!
I'm not doubting they have right of way , but surely roads were created for carts rather than horses? Surely horses can go anywhere they like?

And to add my twopenneth - horses shouldn't be allowed on the road, they are, by definition, unpredictable and not designed by nature to cope will with traffic. Mind you, I do slow right down and give them a very wide, low rev overtake when I come across them. (I'm not militantly anti horse!)

Heebeegeetee

30,255 posts

279 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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ganglandboss said:
in which I briefly mentioned horses shouldn't be allowed on the road.
There's too much of car owners claiming other road users have no right to do so. They don't pay road tax and neither do you, there are several million cars out there not paying any sort of vehicle excise duty, inc myself with my classic cars.

I think its car owners constantly claiming others have no right to use the roads that impeeds my freedom to use the roads in my car.

Having said all that, horses are a total pain in the arse whether on hoof or wheel. Nobody should be allowed onto the roads without training, police nags show how to do it properly and that should be the standard for all. To do otherwise is highly irresponsible.

ganglandboss

Original Poster:

8,563 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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greysquirrel said:
Roads were created for horses, they have right of way, although bloody annoying!
But they have evolved since and are financed by motorists.

My colleague sat behind me said, "If roads are meant for horses, they'd be made of grass so they wouldn't hurt their feet" he also added "They should put the fcensoredking lot of 'em down!"

If anyone would like to send any abuse, I will relay it to him. You may want to mention that his Astra's shit!

ganglandboss

Original Poster:

8,563 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Heebeegeetee said:
police nags show how to do it properly and that should be the standard for all.
What do you call an animal with a ccensoredt on its Back?

A police horse!

ganglandboss

Original Poster:

8,563 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Heebeegeetee said:
They don't pay road tax and neither do you, there are several million cars out there not paying any sort of vehicle excise duty, inc myself with my classic cars.
Yes, but a classic car has paid several years tax.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Live and let live - they are entitled to use the public roads, the same as pedestrians, cyclists etc. Just because they momentarily interupt your hoon, it does not mean that they should be banned from the road (far too much banning of everything going around at the moment IMO).

And as a point of fact, you don't pay road tax, you pay Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), which is an annual tax on the ownership of road vehicles. A lot of your council tax will also go towards the upkeep of local roads, so the horse owner has every right to be there.

Besides, if there was no horse riding, there would be no toffy teenage girls in tight jodhpurs...

yum

ganglandboss

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8,563 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Bing o said:
Besides, if there was no horse riding, there would be no toffy teenage girls in tight jodhpurs...

yum
OK, you can have that one!

However, they should be vetted first to make sure there are no munters!

ganglandboss

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234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Bing o said:
Live and let live - they are entitled to use the public roads, the same as pedestrians, cyclists etc.
Yes, but cyclists and pedestrians are doing so for a purpose. Horse riders disrupt the roads for their own pleasure. Also they don't shit on the road(well, most don't)!

greysquirrel

786 posts

258 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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ganglandboss said:
greysquirrel said:
Roads were created for horses, they have right of way, although bloody annoying!
But they have evolved since and are financed by motorists.

My colleague sat behind me said, "If roads are meant for horses, they'd be made of grass so they wouldn't hurt their feet" he also added "They should put the fcensoredking lot of 'em down!"

If anyone would like to send any abuse, I will relay it to him. You may want to mention that his Astra's shit!
haha true.. think they should ban horses, cyclists, and anyone with a shit car wink

Conian

8,030 posts

232 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Horses should not be allowed on the road unless the rider has passed a test of some sort and carries insurance.

And even then there are dangers cos they go so damn slow and have no lights etc, most OAP scooters arent allowed on the road, same as many forklifts.

But I would miss seeing those fine bum cheeks of the cuter of the horsey women in their jodpers smile

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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The government and local authorities are trying to limit our freedoms to enjoy the roads / countryside / our freetime in any and every way they can. There are idiots on horses, like they are idiots everyware. Dont fall into the trap of restricting anyones enjoyment of thier hobbies as, believe me, driving antisocial sports cars, our head is far closer to the block.

Horse poo is simply re-cycled grass, in comparison to dogs / cows / human poo, it is unoffensive. Celebrate anyone enjoying thier freetime.


Apart from caravaners. Scum of the earth.

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Bing o said:
Live and let live - they are entitled to use the public roads, the same as pedestrians, cyclists etc. Just because they momentarily interupt your hoon, it does not mean that they should be banned from the road (far too much banning of everything going around at the moment IMO).

And as a point of fact, you don't pay road tax, you pay Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), which is an annual tax on the ownership of road vehicles. A lot of your council tax will also go towards the upkeep of local roads, so the horse owner has every right to be there.

Besides, if there was no horse riding, there would be no toffy teenage girls in tight jodhpurs...

yum
OH MY GOD.....

I actually agree with Bing O.

I feel dirty

DsDetective

118 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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The odd thing is that horses have never really bothered me that much, it's cyclists that get up my goat. They ride three abreast, completely oblivious to everyone else, they wear silly cloths, they have beards, and they act superior over environmental issues (which is pretty dubious anyway since one cyclist can generate a large tail back of congestion which all adds to the pollution).

I therefore counter-propose that we:

1) Make horses wear nappies
2) Ban cyclists, or maybe send them to an island somewhere
3) Ban Porsches (the reasons for this are many and varied and utterly infallible)

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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The Lotus Forum Motoring Manifesto - please add to.

Horses
1) Should be insured
2) should stop every 3-4 mins to prevent tailbacks
3) Should wear nappies
4) Should be ridden by totty in tight jodphurs

Cyclists
1) Should be insured
2) Should be liable to the same laws as every other road user ie, have lights at night and not to jump lights

Caravans
1) should be put in a field in scotland with thier owners locked in and shelled / bombed / irradiated

Lorries
1) Not allowed on B roads
2)Only allowed on A roads at very limited times.

Porsche Drivers
1) Should be allowed on the roads as it is always fun to hoon past them.
2) once they have been overtaken they must stop get out of thier car and offer penance to the Lord Chapman for thier error. This penance can be paid in many ways, but the one favoured by the Government of Gooby is to fill up the nearest Lotus with premium

Pensioners
-- see lorries

Camera partnership vehicles
--- See Caravans

DsDetective

118 posts

234 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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DsDetective fully endorses the above manifesto - particularly "Horses 4)"