ever had a bike die on you????
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hi guys,
had a real bummer today. rode the sv back from london, got all the way up m11 and a414, less than half a mile from home and i stop at a set of traffic lights. i make my turn left and gun it slightly then nothing!!!!
all power shut down immediately. pull in the clutch and roll to a stop. try ignition on and off, nothing. the alarm kept going off, presumably cos there's no power to it, (alarms battery backup).
find out how unfit i am walking it the last few hundred yards home! (21's a few yrs ago!)
get the fairings off to have a look see if theres anything obvious but im no bike mechanic. brake pads, spark plugs, air filter i can handle but im not clued up on bike electrics. (although im an electrician!! oh the irony..)
could it be the main fuse?? or maybe a cable come loose??
all suggestions, opinions, experiences more than welcome...
e
had a real bummer today. rode the sv back from london, got all the way up m11 and a414, less than half a mile from home and i stop at a set of traffic lights. i make my turn left and gun it slightly then nothing!!!!
all power shut down immediately. pull in the clutch and roll to a stop. try ignition on and off, nothing. the alarm kept going off, presumably cos there's no power to it, (alarms battery backup).
find out how unfit i am walking it the last few hundred yards home! (21's a few yrs ago!)
get the fairings off to have a look see if theres anything obvious but im no bike mechanic. brake pads, spark plugs, air filter i can handle but im not clued up on bike electrics. (although im an electrician!! oh the irony..)
could it be the main fuse?? or maybe a cable come loose??
all suggestions, opinions, experiences more than welcome...
e
If it's a datatool alarm, then it is most likely to be the alarm and immobiliser. They are a bag of cr*p. I've just had mine removed after it kept cutting out the fuel pump........ I'll lay money on that being the problem.
Alarms on bikes are more trouble than they are worth to be honest. A good chain and lock is far better.
Check all the fuses first. Does the dash light up? Does the fuel pump run when you turn the key, or is it completely dead?
Alarms on bikes are more trouble than they are worth to be honest. A good chain and lock is far better.
Check all the fuses first. Does the dash light up? Does the fuel pump run when you turn the key, or is it completely dead?
Edited by IforB on Tuesday 31st July 22:52
lol, no reserve on the sv's bud...
once again, i turn the ignition and no lights, no horn, no nothing... she eez dead no??
im going to look at the main fuse first as didnt get a chance before sun turned off. i tested the battery and there was definitely 24v d.c. so the feed is going out its just not getting to the dash/ignition...or it IS getting to the ignition and theres a prob there...
once again, i turn the ignition and no lights, no horn, no nothing... she eez dead no??
im going to look at the main fuse first as didnt get a chance before sun turned off. i tested the battery and there was definitely 24v d.c. so the feed is going out its just not getting to the dash/ignition...or it IS getting to the ignition and theres a prob there...
Alas too far away for a quick visit to have a look and I'm away all weekend so can't even pop over then.
It does sound like a a major circuit so after you've checked the fuse, trace the red wire from the battery. Other common failures are the ingnition plug and charge circuit plug. The ignition one is usually about 6 inches away from the ingnition (but often hidden under the tank. The charge circuit wires come from the side of the engine and go up towards the battery (again likely to be hidden frm the elements).
If you're not a great mechanic, just take the bodywork off slowly and store it in the order it came off. If anything looks confusing, take a photo of it first so you know how to put it back together.
Once you take a few things off and jiggle a few wires a full electrical failure will usually be pretty easy to find.
Good luck with it.
It does sound like a a major circuit so after you've checked the fuse, trace the red wire from the battery. Other common failures are the ingnition plug and charge circuit plug. The ignition one is usually about 6 inches away from the ingnition (but often hidden under the tank. The charge circuit wires come from the side of the engine and go up towards the battery (again likely to be hidden frm the elements).
If you're not a great mechanic, just take the bodywork off slowly and store it in the order it came off. If anything looks confusing, take a photo of it first so you know how to put it back together.
Once you take a few things off and jiggle a few wires a full electrical failure will usually be pretty easy to find.
Good luck with it.
IforB said:
Alarms on bikes are more trouble than they are worth to be honest. A good chain and lock is far better.
Absolutely agree, only thing more useless is an immobiliser - anyone serious about nicking a bike will just stick it in the back of a van. Immobilsers are just something else to go wrong...........
I'm hoping you mean 12v..... catso said:
IforB said:
Alarms on bikes are more trouble than they are worth to be honest. A good chain and lock is far better.
Absolutely agree, only thing more useless is an immobiliser - anyone serious about nicking a bike will just stick it in the back of a van. Immobilsers are just something else to go wrong...........My first bike did exactly the same thing - exactly the same symptoms. Was a dead (not flat, but dead) battery. Take the old battery off and jump it to another one, or just replace battery. Mine was fine after that. I think I'd be worried if I saw 24v anywhere. Should charge at around 14.5 volts or therabouts.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Bloody alarms 
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If the bikes not aeons old and the dash lights up when you put the key in but the starter won't turn then check all the fuses as a first step but if they're all ok then the alarm would be my guess too.
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Blade just cut out as it had run out of fuel - my fault.
Blade wouldn't restart half way to lancaster from newbury because the alarm fob was full of water, nightmare scenario massively exacerbated by
head useless bastard rac but basically agree that alarms are a complete waste of time.
RD350 started to misfire, turned to reserve and it cut out - the wazzock previous owner had put the fuel pipes on the reserve switch the wrong way round.
Blade just cut out as it had run out of fuel - my fault.
Blade wouldn't restart half way to lancaster from newbury because the alarm fob was full of water, nightmare scenario massively exacerbated by
head useless bastard rac but basically agree that alarms are a complete waste of time.Death is a strange word
RD350LC : 95 MPH then the wheel is locked and I'm desperately trying to pull in the clutch and control the front end which is now tank slapping.
Minor heart attack really. Bent con rod, grooves in cylinder wall(requiring me to bore it to 375cc)
flat spotted rear tyre and serious stretched chain. 3 weeks on my dinning room table and it was alive and kicking.
RD350LC : 95 MPH then the wheel is locked and I'm desperately trying to pull in the clutch and control the front end which is now tank slapping.
Minor heart attack really. Bent con rod, grooves in cylinder wall(requiring me to bore it to 375cc)
flat spotted rear tyre and serious stretched chain. 3 weeks on my dinning room table and it was alive and kicking.
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