Alonso free to leave
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stew-S160

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8,020 posts

267 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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Ron has stated that FA is free to leave for 2008 if he cant accept Mclarens 'equal' driver status.

hmmmmm,

bye bye FA i reckon.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=4031...

Edited by stew-S160 on Tuesday 7th August 17:45

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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stew-S160 said:
Ron has stated that FA is free to leave for 2008 if he cant accept Mclarens 'equal' driver status.

hmmmmm,

bye bye FA i reckon.
Linky?

Hammer Zeit

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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stew-S160 said:
Ron has stated that FA is free to leave for 2008 if he cant accept Mclarens 'equal' driver status.

hmmmmm,

bye bye FA i reckon.
Lets hope so! He is acting like a kid, so what if his younger team-mate is beating him? He must deal with it, Piquet did with Mansell and Prost did with Senna.

pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Hammer Zeit

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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Maybe another Montoya situation coming up?

Marki

15,763 posts

299 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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scratchchin I wonder what would happen if he did win the championship this year hehe some back peddleing maybe biggrin

Hammer Zeit

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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Marki said:
scratchchin I wonder what would happen if he did win the championship this year hehe some back peddleing maybe biggrin
But he won't, Lewis will win, like Kimi did last year, he took his foot off the gas when the season was winding down.

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

292 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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Why not keep his mouth shut and let his driving do the talking, then if he does leave he can hold his head high..

sosidge

700 posts

244 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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stew-S160 said:
Ron has stated that FA is free to leave for 2008 if he cant accept Mclarens 'equal' driver status.
That isn't what Ron has "stated" in the quotes in that article. That is a bit of "spin" put on the story by the journalist who wrote the piece for ITV.

What Ron is actually saying is that if any employee disagrees with the values of the team then they have a choice about whether or not to stay.

Same would apply to FA, LH or any one of the behind-the-scenes crew.

pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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Marki said:
scratchchin I wonder what would happen if he did win the championship this year hehe some back peddleing maybe biggrin
I dont think that would make any difference,Hamilton is the hot property in F1,all sponsers want to be associated with him.So if they kept Alonso they would almost certainly lose Hamilton

G Man

4,053 posts

289 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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pies said:
Marki said:
scratchchin I wonder what would happen if he did win the championship this year hehe some back peddleing maybe biggrin
I dont think that would make any difference,Hamilton is the hot property in F1,all sponsers want to be associated with him.So if they kept Alonso they would almost certainly lose Hamilton
Hamilton is hot property in the UK, Alonso is hot property in the spanish speaking world and has huge sponsorship from Spanish companies .... something Hamilton would not have at the start of the season, he might get it now .. but that is conjecture

g4ry13

21,715 posts

284 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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G Man said:
pies said:
Marki said:
scratchchin I wonder what would happen if he did win the championship this year hehe some back peddleing maybe biggrin
I dont think that would make any difference,Hamilton is the hot property in F1,all sponsers want to be associated with him.So if they kept Alonso they would almost certainly lose Hamilton
Hamilton is hot property in the UK, Alonso is hot property in the spanish speaking world and has huge sponsorship from Spanish companies .... something Hamilton would not have at the start of the season, he might get it now .. but that is conjecture
Banco Santander Central Hispano (a large spanish bank) happen to sponsor Mclaren with a spanish driver behind the wheel. If said spanish driver wasn't behind the wheel i'm sceptical whether they'd continue to sponsor Mclaren. By the size of the adverts on the Mclaren i'd hazard a guess that they're a huge sponsor of Mclaren and so Alonso is quite pivotal in that position. It's difficult to see who exclusively sponsors LH at the moment apart from his watch company so i'm sceptical that he brings in as much sponsorship as Alonso.

Either way i'm pretty sure Ron was making the point that anyone who doesn't want to work in the team's interest knows where the door is.

Hammer Zeit

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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g4ry13 said:
G Man said:
pies said:
Marki said:
scratchchin I wonder what would happen if he did win the championship this year hehe some back peddleing maybe biggrin
I dont think that would make any difference,Hamilton is the hot property in F1,all sponsers want to be associated with him.So if they kept Alonso they would almost certainly lose Hamilton
Hamilton is hot property in the UK, Alonso is hot property in the spanish speaking world and has huge sponsorship from Spanish companies .... something Hamilton would not have at the start of the season, he might get it now .. but that is conjecture
Banco Santander Central Hispano (a large spanish bank) happen to sponsor Mclaren with a spanish driver behind the wheel. If said spanish driver wasn't behind the wheel i'm sceptical whether they'd continue to sponsor Mclaren. By the size of the adverts on the Mclaren i'd hazard a guess that they're a huge sponsor of Mclaren and so Alonso is quite pivotal in that position. It's difficult to see who exclusively sponsors LH at the moment apart from his watch company so i'm sceptical that he brings in as much sponsorship as Alonso.

Either way i'm pretty sure Ron was making the point that anyone who doesn't want to work in the team's interest knows where the door is.
How about the distinctly Spanish test driver? He'd get promoted up to the race team again, I don't think Ron would want to make another major investment in the near future.

ELAN+2

2,232 posts

261 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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shout "ADIOS AMIGO" or what ever, not only is LH faster but also mentally stronger than the stroppy spaniard, If this is the case, it smacks of sour grapes!!

Hammer Zeit

735 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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ELAN+2 said:
shout "ADIOS AMIGO" or what ever, not only is LH faster but also mentally stronger than the stroppy spaniard, If this is the case, it smacks of sour grapes!!
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g4ry13

21,715 posts

284 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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Hammer Zeit said:
g4ry13 said:
G Man said:
pies said:
Marki said:
scratchchin I wonder what would happen if he did win the championship this year hehe some back peddleing maybe biggrin
I dont think that would make any difference,Hamilton is the hot property in F1,all sponsers want to be associated with him.So if they kept Alonso they would almost certainly lose Hamilton
Hamilton is hot property in the UK, Alonso is hot property in the spanish speaking world and has huge sponsorship from Spanish companies .... something Hamilton would not have at the start of the season, he might get it now .. but that is conjecture
Banco Santander Central Hispano (a large spanish bank) happen to sponsor Mclaren with a spanish driver behind the wheel. If said spanish driver wasn't behind the wheel i'm sceptical whether they'd continue to sponsor Mclaren. By the size of the adverts on the Mclaren i'd hazard a guess that they're a huge sponsor of Mclaren and so Alonso is quite pivotal in that position. It's difficult to see who exclusively sponsors LH at the moment apart from his watch company so i'm sceptical that he brings in as much sponsorship as Alonso.

Either way i'm pretty sure Ron was making the point that anyone who doesn't want to work in the team's interest knows where the door is.
How about the distinctly Spanish test driver? He'd get promoted up to the race team again, I don't think Ron would want to make another major investment in the near future.
I did forget about that, but old Pedro in a Mclaren race seat - i'm not sure scratchchin Either way, considering how little he's seen behind the Mclaren wheel the sponsorship of Santander is clearly for Alonso. Perhaps they may stick around for Pedro if he was in a race seat but he doesn't have the same lure as Alonso and the chances of Alonso going and Pedro taking his place aren't likely.

jasonc

77 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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McLaren will have no trouble getting sponsorship for LH now he has shown he can win. Let's face it - even Jenson Button gets sponsorship and he has achieved effectively nothing....

DBSV8

5,958 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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jasonc said:
McLaren will have no trouble getting sponsorship for LH now he has shown he can win. Let's face it - even Jenson Button gets sponsorship and he has achieved effectively nothing....
thats a great idea

swap Fernando for Button , two english drivers in the team next year

and button will kick Hamilton into touch ........to as he quoted

""join the monkeys at the back of the grid""

bouncehehehehe



benyeats

12,155 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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g4ry13 said:
Hammer Zeit said:
g4ry13 said:
G Man said:
pies said:
Marki said:
scratchchin I wonder what would happen if he did win the championship this year hehe some back peddleing maybe biggrin
I dont think that would make any difference,Hamilton is the hot property in F1,all sponsers want to be associated with him.So if they kept Alonso they would almost certainly lose Hamilton
Hamilton is hot property in the UK, Alonso is hot property in the spanish speaking world and has huge sponsorship from Spanish companies .... something Hamilton would not have at the start of the season, he might get it now .. but that is conjecture
Banco Santander Central Hispano (a large spanish bank) happen to sponsor Mclaren with a spanish driver behind the wheel. If said spanish driver wasn't behind the wheel i'm sceptical whether they'd continue to sponsor Mclaren. By the size of the adverts on the Mclaren i'd hazard a guess that they're a huge sponsor of Mclaren and so Alonso is quite pivotal in that position. It's difficult to see who exclusively sponsors LH at the moment apart from his watch company so i'm sceptical that he brings in as much sponsorship as Alonso.

Either way i'm pretty sure Ron was making the point that anyone who doesn't want to work in the team's interest knows where the door is.
How about the distinctly Spanish test driver? He'd get promoted up to the race team again, I don't think Ron would want to make another major investment in the near future.
I did forget about that, but old Pedro in a Mclaren race seat - i'm not sure scratchchin Either way, considering how little he's seen behind the Mclaren wheel the sponsorship of Santander is clearly for Alonso. Perhaps they may stick around for Pedro if he was in a race seat but he doesn't have the same lure as Alonso and the chances of Alonso going and Pedro taking his place aren't likely.
I went to Spain quite early this season and a lot of the posters in Madrid airport and in town showed Alsono and De La Rosa in McLaren get up as if they were the two drivers. I assume this will change as Hamilton has become known but they certainly seemed to be keen on the Spanish driver link. Of course speaking no Spanish the text could have said "2 x world champion + another bloke in a race suit" but I doubt it.

Ben

spitfire-ian

4,215 posts

257 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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Abbey is now part of the Santander Group so there is kind of a British link there so maybe if Alonso left it wouldn't be all doom and gloom sponsorship wise??