how long are points on license
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miniman said: IIRC they count towards totting up to the 12 point max for 3 years, but remain physically on your licence for 4 years. Insurers tend to not care about anything over 5 years old.
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The points are valid from date of convictions and not from date of offence. They are valid for 3 years . They stay on the licence for 4 years.
if i have two speeding convictions how long are they on my license ,i always thought 3 year however someone i spoke to said 4 years.
can anyone shead any light on this.
thanks.
www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/endorsem.htm has all you need to know.
if i have two speeding convictions how long are they on my license ,i always thought 3 year however someone i spoke to said 4 years.
can anyone shead any light on this.
thanks.
www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/endorsem.htm has all you need to know.
I have cut and pasted this from the DVLC website described above, these details concern how long the points are detailed on your licence, not when they become invalid for totting up bans (which is the important date).
"1. Endorsement Guide
Disqualifications, convictions and acceptance of fixed penalties payments in respect of driving offences are notified to DVLA by the courts. The details are entered on to the driver's record and the licence. In addition to paying a fine/fixed penalty the drivers licence will be endorsed with a penalty ranging from 3-11 points or a period of disqualification will be imposed, depending on the seriousness of the offence. Any driver who incurs 12 or more penalty points within a 3-year period faces automatic disqualification under the under "totting -up" system. Information on a driver's entitlement and endorsements are sent to courts and police on request.
Endorsements must remain on a licence for 11 years from date of conviction if the offence is :
drinking/drugs and driving (shown on the licence as DR10, DR20, DR30 and DR80).
causing death by careless driving whilst under the influence of drink/drugs (shown on the licence as CD40,CD50 and CD60).
causing death by careless driving, then failing to provide a specimen for analysis (shown on the licence as CD70).
or 4 years from date of conviction if the offence is as listed below
reckless/dangerous driving (shown on the licence as DD40,DD60 and DD80),
offences resulting in disqualification.
disqualified from holding a full licence until a driving test has been passed.
or 4 years from the date of offence in all other cases."
I have three points from a SP30 fixed penalty, the details on my licence do not show a date of conviction, only a date of the offence, does this mean that the three points will only applicable for totting up until three years after the date of the offence or does the DVLA have a date for when the points were applied to my licence?
"1. Endorsement Guide
Disqualifications, convictions and acceptance of fixed penalties payments in respect of driving offences are notified to DVLA by the courts. The details are entered on to the driver's record and the licence. In addition to paying a fine/fixed penalty the drivers licence will be endorsed with a penalty ranging from 3-11 points or a period of disqualification will be imposed, depending on the seriousness of the offence. Any driver who incurs 12 or more penalty points within a 3-year period faces automatic disqualification under the under "totting -up" system. Information on a driver's entitlement and endorsements are sent to courts and police on request.
Endorsements must remain on a licence for 11 years from date of conviction if the offence is :
drinking/drugs and driving (shown on the licence as DR10, DR20, DR30 and DR80).
causing death by careless driving whilst under the influence of drink/drugs (shown on the licence as CD40,CD50 and CD60).
causing death by careless driving, then failing to provide a specimen for analysis (shown on the licence as CD70).
or 4 years from date of conviction if the offence is as listed below
reckless/dangerous driving (shown on the licence as DD40,DD60 and DD80),
offences resulting in disqualification.
disqualified from holding a full licence until a driving test has been passed.
or 4 years from the date of offence in all other cases."
I have three points from a SP30 fixed penalty, the details on my licence do not show a date of conviction, only a date of the offence, does this mean that the three points will only applicable for totting up until three years after the date of the offence or does the DVLA have a date for when the points were applied to my licence?
4 years from the date of offence in all other cases[/unquote]
So theyt are there for 4 years from the date of the offence - thats all that matters.
A good reason to string out any court case if you think you will not be getting a ban.
And if you want the points removed without paying DVLA's nasty little grab for doing so theres nothing stopping you moving to a relative's address for a few weeks.
Notify the change of address - you will get a nice shiny licence. And when/if you move back you can do it again.
Richard C said:
4 years from the date of offence in all other cases[/unquote]
So theyt are there for 4 years from the date of the offence - thats all that matters.
A good reason to string out any court case if you think you will not be getting a ban.
And if you want the points removed without paying DVLA's nasty little grab for doing so theres nothing stopping you moving to a relative's address for a few weeks.
Notify the change of address - you will get a nice shiny licence. And when/if you move back you can do it again.
No the time they remain written on your licence is NOT the same as the time in which they are used in 'totting up'. It is the 12 point = a ban totting up procedure that is the worrying time!
Edited to add;
Points are valid for totting up for three years, but from which date?
>> Edited by richard sails on Monday 9th June 16:41
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