6 Points & £300 for 115mph!!
Discussion
jshell said:
That wouldn't be my view.Perhaps the offender was unwise to rush up to 115 mph in a car that was fairly new to him, but I've not much time for the Sherrif's comments about speeding causing tragedies. There's plenty of other ways of having serious shunts, but as usual the court has made a big fuss about speed.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
TripleS said:
I've not much time for the Sherrif's comments about speeding causing tragedies. There's plenty of other ways of having serious shunts, but as usual the court has made a big fuss about speed.
He did get off lightly with no ban, but I agree with your comments. Driving at 115mph does not mean an accident is inevitable, or even likely given appropriate conditions.That said, clearly 115mph wasn't appropriate at the time, since there was a copper (or was it a camera?) nearby.
TripleS said:
jshell said:
That wouldn't be my view.Perhaps the offender was unwise to rush up to 115 mph in a car that was fairly new to him, but I've not much time for the Sherrif's comments about speeding causing tragedies. There's plenty of other ways of having serious shunts, but as usual the court has made a big fuss about speed.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
The Sheriff actually said..."Speeding can cause all sorts of tragedies." (my bold)
CAN not DOES....[/pedant mode]
oldsoak said:
TripleS said:
jshell said:
That wouldn't be my view.Perhaps the offender was unwise to rush up to 115 mph in a car that was fairly new to him, but I've not much time for the Sherrif's comments about speeding causing tragedies. There's plenty of other ways of having serious shunts, but as usual the court has made a big fuss about speed.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
The Sheriff actually said..."Speeding can cause all sorts of tragedies." (my bold)
CAN not DOES....[/pedant mode]
jshell said:
No.ALL penalties purely for speeding are excessive and oppressive.
fluffnik said:
jshell said:
No.ALL penalties purely for speeding are excessive and oppressive.
esteemed judge said:
You are perhaps fortunate nothing happened on this occasion.
Or indeed on the other hundreds of millions of occasions people waft harmlessly about at those sorts of speeds.Anyway something did happen -- he was stiffed 300 quid and half a licence. Hardly "nothing" I'd have said.
The solution is to raise the speed limit to something more sensible, then these "crimes" will be far less serious. 115mph in a 110mph limit, for example would become a minor transgression rather than exceeding the limit by 45mph. Imagine the paperwork it'd save everyone?
SM
supermono said:
EDLT said:
How did the courts know that the driver was capable of controlling a car at 115mph?
Because it's so simple? lol. vonhosen said:
supermono said:
EDLT said:
How did the courts know that the driver was capable of controlling a car at 115mph?
Because it's so simple? lol. SM
supermono said:
vonhosen said:
supermono said:
EDLT said:
How did the courts know that the driver was capable of controlling a car at 115mph?
Because it's so simple? lol. SM
vonhosen said:
supermono said:
vonhosen said:
supermono said:
EDLT said:
How did the courts know that the driver was capable of controlling a car at 115mph?
Because it's so simple? lol. SM
ocks. Even if drivers were much worse, we average about ten people killed on the roads every day. This is a tiny number and frankly not worth worrying about.vonhosen said:
supermono said:
vonhosen said:
supermono said:
EDLT said:
How did the courts know that the driver was capable of controlling a car at 115mph?
Because it's so simple? lol. SM
so we'll let poorly trained monkeys out in cars to crash, but legislate against the severity of those crashes? I definitely prefer the German model where people are taught how to drive safely and are trusted to drive safely. In their model speed is often left up to the trained operative.SM
imbecile said:
Oh boocks. Even if drivers were much worse, we average about ten people killed on the roads every day. This is a tiny number and frankly not worth worrying about.
Refreshing to hear a statistical approach. I do wish this view was taken with regard to the vanishingly small threat of terrorism so we'd all be able to fly easily, not look at great concrete slabs springing up in our once beautiful capital and all kinds of other freedoms Great Britain used to be so proud of.ocks. Even if drivers were much worse, we average about ten people killed on the roads every day. This is a tiny number and frankly not worth worrying about.SM
supermono said:
vonhosen said:
supermono said:
vonhosen said:
supermono said:
EDLT said:
How did the courts know that the driver was capable of controlling a car at 115mph?
Because it's so simple? lol. SM
so we'll let poorly trained monkeys out in cars to crash, but legislate against the severity of those crashes? I definitely prefer the German model where people are taught how to drive safely and are trusted to drive safely. In their model speed is often left up to the trained operative.SM
Why don't the Germans trust their highly trained operatives to judge speed for themselves on 'all' their roads at 'all' times, instead of just a proportion of one type of road ?
Surely if they judge speed well & have the necessary skills they wouldn't need an artificially imposed limit anywhere, just warnings of the more unusual hazards at those particualr sites ?
Or is it they merely don't have speed limits in certain places for political expediency (which would certainly appear more likely to me if they don't really trust the drivers skill levels) ?
Still your point about poorly trained monkeys is apt to a certain degree, because it does appear that pretty much every country prefers to have a system that makes it relatively easy for everyone to be able to drive a car & impose restrictions on the speeds they can achieve in it legally.
That's why I am of the opinion that the masses out there would rather we have a driving test as it is & lower limits, instead of a much stiffer & regular test with higher limits. A government will cater firstly for it's masses because it's that which puts it in power & I honestly believe much harder tests & retests suddenly being introduced, would be a bigger vote loser than speed limits or cameras. Proportionally there aren't that many PHers in the population.
Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 11th August 09:38
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