Do you think there trying to make us lazy

Do you think there trying to make us lazy

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time2react

Original Poster:

91 posts

201 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Drove a new BMW 5 series tiptronic the other day. Christ I thought someone else was driving the car for me.
I remember a time when you had to actually do things. You know like switch on the wipers when it rains or the headlights when it gets dark, to even holding the indicator stork and pushing it up to make it stay on.
Is it me or are the vehicle manufactures trying to make us lazy. BMW says it will work in manual mode, but what do they term as manual. When you reach the rev limit it'll change up and as you decrease the speed it'll change down. At one point accelerating through the gears noting the engine note I wanted to change up to 4th gear , but the car beat me to it, went to 4th then decided that as i had pushed the gear stick obviously i wanted to go up another gear and went straight to 5th. 3rd to 5th in one easy step. Nothing like the power of BMW to slow me down. Still not quite as bad as when I overtook a HGV on a single carriageway having indicated to do so, cancelling the right indication (which will not self cancel) which imeadiately turned on the left indicator leting the chap at the nearside juction up ahead know that I was about to turn left. ( which i wasn't) I'm sure you can guess the rest.

I was wondering if anyone else has come across or been involved in an incident where, these new fangled bits of technology have caused more danger than they are suppose to avoid. Having previously spoken with a VW Golf driver who didn't have his fog lights on in seriously reduced visibility. Saying, "the car puts it's lights on when there needed, so I don't touch them".
( would have been an interesting argument if he had been involved in a collision)

Phisp

69 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Or are they trying to counteract our laziness? Perhaps the car is becoming a plug-n-play device?

Edited by Phisp on Tuesday 14th August 16:26

WilliBetz

694 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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The new 5 series is a fabulous bit of kit. Family life necessitates that I moved on from a succession of M3's to a 535d Touring. I expected to hate it, but it's great - so easy to live with. Rapid, too, when conditions allow.

But, as with any car, you need to become properly acquainted with it in order to get the best from it. And the indicators are a great example...

To cancel the indicators in a 5 series, briefly press the indicator stalk in the direction that you were indicating. So, in your particular example, to cancel a right hand signal, press the indicator stalk up.

Hope that helps,

WilliBetz

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Get yourself a Seven:- the ideal antidote to all the stuff that you think is in a car but doesn't need to be...sat nav, abs, waterproofing...

TripleS

4,294 posts

243 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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7db said:
Get yourself a Seven:- the ideal antidote to all the stuff that you think is in a car but doesn't need to be...sat nav, abs, waterproofing...
....and suspension?

Well at least it keeps aged passengers awake. laugh

Hello, Dave - I trust you're well.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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i cant stand all the 'toys' they put on cars now days. in my experience they just make it harder to drive well, you have to drive badly to allow the car to 'correct' you in order to use the car.

T0nup

683 posts

201 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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For years car manuafacturers have been isolating the driver from the very act of driving. BMW more than most I guess. All the toys and gizmos that are supposed to make driving safer, have made driving way too comfortable for my liking. Driving a modern car puts me to sleep... Literally.

Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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Agree totally - drive something like a 7, or an Elise - no ABS, no TC etc - makes you pay attention a lot more!!

turbomachine

189 posts

203 months

Friday 17th August 2007
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I totally agree with Bing O, I am not a huge fan of all the electronic computerised crap they put in cars, i prefer to use my own computer-my brain!!
Some of the safety things should be there incase i did make a mistake eg seatbelts and airbags or if someone else did, but i think there is way too much crap eg auto lights, wipers, tyre pressure guages. all these electrics cause people to think i'll be alright cos i have got 60 airbags, 900 different abbrevations for brakes abs, esp, abc, xyz, blt , so the car will sort itself out, as for sport buttons!!aaggghh. Why have a wee button that makes your car what it should be like in the first place and when you turn it off it makes itself not sporty!!what!! ie the crappy computer tells the engine suspension etc it stop doin what it was built to do.


Thnks

turbo tim

20,443 posts

232 months

Sunday 19th August 2007
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7db said:
Get yourself a Seven:- the ideal antidote to all the stuff that you think is in a car but doesn't need to be...sat nav, abs, waterproofing...
Completely misunderstood there.....

The OP mentioned a 5-Series, and I thought you were suggesting a 7-Series as an antidote, hehe which couldn't be further from the truth!! My 7 has got double glazing and it is so refined, my first few weeks of driving I shared the OP's sentiments exactly.