in court on tuesday
Discussion
I've got a court summons for tuesday, going to appear, as i've been advised that magistrates prefer to see the defendant in person.
It's for a speeding offence (surprised it hasn't happened sooner, licence is clean at the mo!) Got caught by some git of a BIB hiding behind a hedge with an LTI 20/20 doing 74 in a 50 zone. They did send me some lovely pics of me car tho!
Anyway, i was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on what so say/do/wear or what not to!??
It's for a speeding offence (surprised it hasn't happened sooner, licence is clean at the mo!) Got caught by some git of a BIB hiding behind a hedge with an LTI 20/20 doing 74 in a 50 zone. They did send me some lovely pics of me car tho!
Anyway, i was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on what so say/do/wear or what not to!??
Turn up in a tracksuit, unwashed and unshaven, socks tucked into your trousers. Turn up late, speak in one word answers, give the beak attitude. Tell them you are on benefits.
They will assume that you have no cash and therefore let you off.
Do NOT do what I do and wear a £600 suit and be polite as they will arse rape you.
They will assume that you have no cash and therefore let you off.
Do NOT do what I do and wear a £600 suit and be polite as they will arse rape you.
Have you already put in your plea ?
In my case they asked for this prior to the hearing by post- you'll get a reduced fine - 'if' you're found guilty that is. I pleaded guilty and my fine was reduced from £700 to £500 in light of the early plea.
I think the recommendation is for points and a fine at that speed. The fine is income dependent I had a genuine sob story and 'sympathetic' magistrates so they were lenient and gave me a penalty that wouldn't really affect me (30 day ban when I was going to be overseas, ban is not relevant in the other country).
I think I got the biggest fine they can give, and I stated my income was £20k - I don't know your circumstances. Quite a humbling experience going court suited and booted, surrounded by petty criminals in tracksuits, baseball caps - and to top it all they all had legal assistance.
As a law abiding tax payer I am not entitled to the same.
I got a letter written by a friend who is a solicitor to give to the magistrate- I'd suggest you do the same, be very humble...
Just advice I was given.
Oh yes - good luck, hope you don't get too badly shafted
In my case they asked for this prior to the hearing by post- you'll get a reduced fine - 'if' you're found guilty that is. I pleaded guilty and my fine was reduced from £700 to £500 in light of the early plea.
I think the recommendation is for points and a fine at that speed. The fine is income dependent I had a genuine sob story and 'sympathetic' magistrates so they were lenient and gave me a penalty that wouldn't really affect me (30 day ban when I was going to be overseas, ban is not relevant in the other country).
I think I got the biggest fine they can give, and I stated my income was £20k - I don't know your circumstances. Quite a humbling experience going court suited and booted, surrounded by petty criminals in tracksuits, baseball caps - and to top it all they all had legal assistance.
As a law abiding tax payer I am not entitled to the same.
I got a letter written by a friend who is a solicitor to give to the magistrate- I'd suggest you do the same, be very humble...
Just advice I was given.
Oh yes - good luck, hope you don't get too badly shafted
Wear a nice suit and tie. Be polite. Let the wally in charge know that you feel you've let a lot of people down by speeding and regret doing it, possibly ask if you might be sent on a speed awareness course to reduce the punishment?
Or turn up naked and see what happens when you claim your insane?....(thats how it works n Hollywood right?)
Or turn up naked and see what happens when you claim your insane?....(thats how it works n Hollywood right?)
Dwight VanDriver said:
>>>>>Got caught by some git of a BIB <<<<<
Nigh on 50% over the limit and you blame Plod ......cheee.
dvd
Good point DVD.Nigh on 50% over the limit and you blame Plod ......cheee.
dvd
On the other hand it might have been one of those tax raising 50 limits that used to be NSL, and have been dropped for no logical reason other than ££££.
74 in (what should be) a 60 doesn't sound quite so bad.
Dwight VanDriver said:
>>>>>Got caught by some git of a BIB <<<<<
Nigh on 50% over the limit and you blame Plod ......cheee.
dvd
not blaming plod per say, just think them hiding behind hedges on clear straight roads is rather sneaky and underhand. fund raising as opposed to rational, purposeful policing.Nigh on 50% over the limit and you blame Plod ......cheee.
dvd
digger_R said:
Have you already put in your plea ?
In my case they asked for this prior to the hearing by post- you'll get a reduced fine - 'if' you're found guilty that is. I pleaded guilty and my fine was reduced from £700 to £500 in light of the early plea.
I think the recommendation is for points and a fine at that speed. The fine is income dependent I had a genuine sob story and 'sympathetic' magistrates so they were lenient and gave me a penalty that wouldn't really affect me (30 day ban when I was going to be overseas, ban is not relevant in the other country).
I think I got the biggest fine they can give, and I stated my income was £20k - I don't know your circumstances. Quite a humbling experience going court suited and booted, surrounded by petty criminals in tracksuits, baseball caps - and to top it all they all had legal assistance.
As a law abiding tax payer I am not entitled to the same.
I got a letter written by a friend who is a solicitor to give to the magistrate- I'd suggest you do the same, be very humble...
Just advice I was given.
Oh yes - good luck, hope you don't get too badly shafted
Thank you! So, take a big chunk of humble pie, explain how sorry i am and how badly i feel i have behaved, not forgetting of course to get my employer to write me a charecter reference?In my case they asked for this prior to the hearing by post- you'll get a reduced fine - 'if' you're found guilty that is. I pleaded guilty and my fine was reduced from £700 to £500 in light of the early plea.
I think the recommendation is for points and a fine at that speed. The fine is income dependent I had a genuine sob story and 'sympathetic' magistrates so they were lenient and gave me a penalty that wouldn't really affect me (30 day ban when I was going to be overseas, ban is not relevant in the other country).
I think I got the biggest fine they can give, and I stated my income was £20k - I don't know your circumstances. Quite a humbling experience going court suited and booted, surrounded by petty criminals in tracksuits, baseball caps - and to top it all they all had legal assistance.
As a law abiding tax payer I am not entitled to the same.
I got a letter written by a friend who is a solicitor to give to the magistrate- I'd suggest you do the same, be very humble...
Just advice I was given.
Oh yes - good luck, hope you don't get too badly shafted
digger_R said:
As a law abiding tax payer I am not entitled to the same.
LOL! If you were 'law abiding' you would not be up in court with a guilty plea!Totally agree with your post though it does seem one rule for the great unwashed and one for the rest of us,
Was watching traffic cops on BBC the other night and some typical scum pond life chav stole a car, no licence, no insurance, has a chase with BIB with no thought for others, crashes stolen car into other cars, decamps and legs it, gives it loads of attitude and kicks off with the BIB when captured, what did he get
100 hours Community service...
I was literally screaming at the TV.
Edited by MrSimba on Thursday 16th August 22:11
MrSimba said:
some typical scum pond life chav stole a car, no licence, no insurance, has a chase with BIB with no thought for others, crashes stolen car into other cars, decamps and legs it, gives it loads of attitude and kicks off with the BIB when captured, what did he get
100 hours Community service...
I was literally screaming at the TV.
a scum pond life chav causes all that grief and you blame the TV.....cheee100 hours Community service...
I was literally screaming at the TV.
Sorry DVD couldn't resist.
Peter Ward said:
Bing o said:
...socks tucked into your trousers...
Interesting concept. Do you recommend putting them in the pockets, in the waistband, or elsewhere? To the OP, suffice it to say, wear a suit - you will be the best dressed person there, and they will fine you accordingly.
There is no "Justice" in the CJS anymore.
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