looking for a 997 gt2
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I picked up my 996 tt from east london yeasterday , and noticed a nice GT2 and asked about it , not knowing to much about them appart from two wheel drive, more power and lack of traction control i asked the sales guy how it differed suspension wise from my tt , that got a blank look , he spoke to another sales man who did not know , and rushed off to the workshop to check with mechanics and came back with the answer that it was the same as my tt.
I could see from looking at it that it was sitting lower than my car so it either has aftermarket suspension or the stock setup is different , so from my experance most sales guys don't now to much. that said i have met one or two who were quite knowlagable ,but they were in the minority.
Rob, ref mid sussex , one of my suppliers has just confirmed an order with mid sussex in the last week for a new gt2 , so the guy you spoke to was probably serious!
Keith
I could see from looking at it that it was sitting lower than my car so it either has aftermarket suspension or the stock setup is different , so from my experance most sales guys don't now to much. that said i have met one or two who were quite knowlagable ,but they were in the minority.
Rob, ref mid sussex , one of my suppliers has just confirmed an order with mid sussex in the last week for a new gt2 , so the guy you spoke to was probably serious!
Keith
kleonard said:
thanks kurgan... but from my experience, most porsche sales men dont even know what a gt2 is... and never have seen one before...!! never mind about trying to sell u one ..!! that they never have seen or possibly be able to get in the first place...!!
Totally agree Rob R, very much mistaken.porkersc said:
kleonard said:
thanks kurgan... but from my experience, most porsche sales men dont even know what a gt2 is... and never have seen one before...!! never mind about trying to sell u one ..!! that they never have seen or possibly be able to get in the first place...!!
Totally agree Rob R, very much mistaken.
The enthusiast is sadly dying out as a salesman. He wants to chat too much, not sell enough, he's sympathetic, he knows his product range in depth but he is now old, has the bad habits that current dealer thinking does not want.
Now they want young hair gelled individuals, in Hugo Boss suits that dont fit, wearing Hugo Boss shoes with very long fronts instead of quality hand made Grensons, pushing their "Life style brands" to like minded individuals who want these items as trophies of success not for what they are, more for what they represent !
The "Sales people" are usually virtual automatons, all working to a script, all trying to apply the tactics of the latest course they have attended.
Cynical me ? I liked it when you went into a showroom and the person assisting you buy had probably started as an apprentice and knew the product for the last 10 or 15 years. He equally tried to stiff you on your px but at least it was with empathy. He knew what he/she was speaking about, did not trot back & forth to the "Manager" everytime a question fell outside the script. Did not need to introduce you to the F&I Manager [Dick Turpin] etc he /she knew the transaction from beginning to end.
Oh well it's called progress I suppose.......
Allan
Now they want young hair gelled individuals, in Hugo Boss suits that dont fit, wearing Hugo Boss shoes with very long fronts instead of quality hand made Grensons, pushing their "Life style brands" to like minded individuals who want these items as trophies of success not for what they are, more for what they represent !
The "Sales people" are usually virtual automatons, all working to a script, all trying to apply the tactics of the latest course they have attended.
Cynical me ? I liked it when you went into a showroom and the person assisting you buy had probably started as an apprentice and knew the product for the last 10 or 15 years. He equally tried to stiff you on your px but at least it was with empathy. He knew what he/she was speaking about, did not trot back & forth to the "Manager" everytime a question fell outside the script. Did not need to introduce you to the F&I Manager [Dick Turpin] etc he /she knew the transaction from beginning to end.
Oh well it's called progress I suppose.......
Allan
Weltmeister said:
The enthusiast is sadly dying out as a salesman. He wants to chat too much, not sell enough, he's sympathetic, he knows his product range in depth but he is now old, has the bad habits that current dealer thinking does not want.
Now they want young hair gelled individuals, in Hugo Boss suits that dont fit, wearing Hugo Boss shoes with very long fronts instead of quality hand made Grensons, pushing their "Life style brands" to like minded individuals who want these items as trophies of success not for what they are, more for what they represent !
The "Sales people" are usually virtual automatons, all working to a script, all trying to apply the tactics of the latest course they have attended.
Cynical me ? I liked it when you went into a showroom and the person assisting you buy had probably started as an apprentice and knew the product for the last 10 or 15 years. He equally tried to stiff you on your px but at least it was with empathy. He knew what he/she was speaking about, did not trot back & forth to the "Manager" everytime a question fell outside the script. Did not need to introduce you to the F&I Manager [Dick Turpin] etc he /she knew the transaction from beginning to end.
Oh well it's called progress I suppose.......
Allan
A remarkably accurate picture painted, truly.Now they want young hair gelled individuals, in Hugo Boss suits that dont fit, wearing Hugo Boss shoes with very long fronts instead of quality hand made Grensons, pushing their "Life style brands" to like minded individuals who want these items as trophies of success not for what they are, more for what they represent !
The "Sales people" are usually virtual automatons, all working to a script, all trying to apply the tactics of the latest course they have attended.
Cynical me ? I liked it when you went into a showroom and the person assisting you buy had probably started as an apprentice and knew the product for the last 10 or 15 years. He equally tried to stiff you on your px but at least it was with empathy. He knew what he/she was speaking about, did not trot back & forth to the "Manager" everytime a question fell outside the script. Did not need to introduce you to the F&I Manager [Dick Turpin] etc he /she knew the transaction from beginning to end.
Oh well it's called progress I suppose.......
Allan
Weltmeister said:
The enthusiast is sadly dying out as a salesman. He wants to chat too much, not sell enough, he's sympathetic, he knows his product range in depth but he is now old, has the bad habits that current dealer thinking does not want.
Now they want young hair gelled individuals, in Hugo Boss suits that dont fit, wearing Hugo Boss shoes with very long fronts instead of quality hand made Grensons, pushing their "Life style brands" to like minded individuals who want these items as trophies of success not for what they are, more for what they represent !
The "Sales people" are usually virtual automatons, all working to a script, all trying to apply the tactics of the latest course they have attended.
Cynical me ? I liked it when you went into a showroom and the person assisting you buy had probably started as an apprentice and knew the product for the last 10 or 15 years. He equally tried to stiff you on your px but at least it was with empathy. He knew what he/she was speaking about, did not trot back & forth to the "Manager" everytime a question fell outside the script. Did not need to introduce you to the F&I Manager [Dick Turpin] etc he /she knew the transaction from beginning to end.
Oh well it's called progress I suppose.......
Allan
You are so right. In Germany I find that it is still like that, at least for the moment. Also you recognise the staff when you walk into the showroom, which is nice.Now they want young hair gelled individuals, in Hugo Boss suits that dont fit, wearing Hugo Boss shoes with very long fronts instead of quality hand made Grensons, pushing their "Life style brands" to like minded individuals who want these items as trophies of success not for what they are, more for what they represent !
The "Sales people" are usually virtual automatons, all working to a script, all trying to apply the tactics of the latest course they have attended.
Cynical me ? I liked it when you went into a showroom and the person assisting you buy had probably started as an apprentice and knew the product for the last 10 or 15 years. He equally tried to stiff you on your px but at least it was with empathy. He knew what he/she was speaking about, did not trot back & forth to the "Manager" everytime a question fell outside the script. Did not need to introduce you to the F&I Manager [Dick Turpin] etc he /she knew the transaction from beginning to end.
Oh well it's called progress I suppose.......
Allan
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