964 wheels.......std?
964 wheels.......std?
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LuckyP

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6,243 posts

256 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Looked at a late LHD 964 C2 yesterday and just had a question about the wheels......

........do these looks std? I was expecting a rounder cross section.





Ta,

Lucky

PH5121

2,007 posts

244 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Those are the standard 16 inch wheels which late 964s had, in place of the earlier cars Design 90s.

Ir Baboon

149 posts

270 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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I have those on my 968. Also FWIW, the stampling by the valve says they are genuine

thegoose

8,077 posts

241 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Late 964s had 17" wheels of a similar design.

G T 3

2,142 posts

285 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Are you sure they are 911 wheels,dont think they are???

LuckyP

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256 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Thanks guys, this is a european LHD 1993...

The alloys pictured were 16"

Another thing for you anoraks out there:

Rear calipers were 2 pot.....normal? Surely later cars had the 4pot no?

LP

LuckyP

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Monday 20th August 2007
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G T 3 said:
Are you sure they are 911 wheels,dont think they are???
This was my initial thought. The quality of the back edge was certainly not what I'd expect, all ruf (cough) and uneven.


wildoliver

9,321 posts

247 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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The stamping by the valve suggests genuine, but the design doesn't quite look right, but in answer to your question the design 92 wheel (I think thats what the cups were called) are correct for the model, and they are certainly not too square, if anything too rounded, but think they are real.

If it is a C4 it should have the larger rear (4pot) calipers, if it is c2 then I think it was about mid 91-92 they changed from 2 pot to 4 pot.

PH5121

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244 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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The rear calipers on early 964 C2 were single pot, they were always 2 pot on 964 C4, (I think)
Edited to say - what I have called single pot is really 2 pot, 1 pot at each side, and similarly, 2 pot is really 4 pot, 2 pots at each side. If you see what I mean.

Edited by PH5121 on Monday 20th August 09:57

LuckyP

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Monday 20th August 2007
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PH5121 said:
The rear calipers on early 964 C2 were single pot, they were always 2 pot on 964 C4, (I think)
Edited to say - what I have called single pot is really 2 pot, 1 pot at each side, and similarly, 2 pot is really 4 pot, 2 pots at each side. If you see what I mean.

Edited by PH5121 on Monday 20th August 09:57
Understood. I call a a caliper 2 pot if it has one either side. So this has 2 pot which is strange, is it not, for the age of the vehicle (a '93)

wildoliver

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247 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Well I haven't seen a 1993 car with twin pots on the back, that said it could have been a 1990/1991 that wasn't registered for 2 years, didn't the last 964's that had the cup wheels also get cup mirrors? Also which dash is fitted? And is it the plastic inlet manifold engine or alloy inlet manifolds?

LuckyP

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Monday 20th August 2007
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wildoliver said:
Well I haven't seen a 1993 car with twin pots on the back, that said it could have been a 1990/1991 that wasn't registered for 2 years, didn't the last 964's that had the cup wheels also get cup mirrors? Also which dash is fitted? And is it the plastic inlet manifold engine or alloy inlet manifolds?
Plastic manifold....

Tear drop mirrors (is that the same as Cup?).....

I'll post a pic of the dash tonight.

Ta - would like to get to the bottom of this one before I make an offer.


Slippydiff

16,483 posts

254 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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wildoliver said:
Well I haven't seen a 1993 car with twin pots on the back, that said it could have been a 1990/1991 that wasn't registered for 2 years, didn't the last 964's that had the cup wheels also get cup mirrors? Also which dash is fitted? And is it the plastic inlet manifold engine or alloy inlet manifolds?
yes

I fell into the same "trap" last year, I bought a K plate C2 teardrops, cups and plastic inlet manifold.
The brakes were "questionable" so I spoke to a couple of specialists about upgrading. The first question they asked was "is it a late model car with 4 pots on the rear?"
Turned out the car was a late '91 MY with 2 pot rear calipers.............

gregorio!

1,179 posts

269 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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LuckyP said:
PH5121 said:
The rear calipers on early 964 C2 were single pot, they were always 2 pot on 964 C4, (I think)
Edited to say - what I have called single pot is really 2 pot, 1 pot at each side, and similarly, 2 pot is really 4 pot, 2 pots at each side. If you see what I mean.

Edited by PH5121 on Monday 20th August 09:57
Understood. I call a a caliper 2 pot if it has one either side. So this has 2 pot which is strange, is it not, for the age of the vehicle (a '93)
Not that strange, it could be a late registered '92 car. If you have the VIN you can work out when the car was built. For a '93 car the 10th character should be a 'P', for a '92 car it should be an 'N'.

I have seen those wheels on 964's before in a size 16. They're not uncommon.

warmfuzzies

4,379 posts

284 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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I wouldn't worry about the 93 reg, 91my issue, rermember we were in a recession at the time, I have one, don't lose any sleep over it.

Kevin

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

251 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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My 92 C2 has the large rear calipers and 17" cups.

wildoliver

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247 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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To be honest it makes not a jot of difference whether it has the 2 or 4 pot rears, the brakes are still amazing either way, and to change to 4 pots costs under £250 and takes about 3/4 of an hour. My 964 has twin pots on the rear and even though I get a lot of 4 pots come through my hands have never been tempted to change them even though it is very very easy.

The only concern would be if it was a rung car, i.e. an early car on a late plate, but with the plastic manifolds etc it seems straight, seriously don't let it worry you.

Oliver

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

251 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Are the locking wheel nuts missing on the pics too?

robmug

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294 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Those are the correct wheels for a late 964. The Cobalt Blue 964 we featured in Total 911 belongs to a friend and his car is TOTALLY standard; has those wheels and the smaller rear calipers. As said above, they were the standard rims on the late 964s, replacing the D90s and were 16".

(My car is 5 vin numbers away from his and also has the small calipers. Both cars were late '92 build, '93 registered - the larger rear calipers came in '93)

robmug

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294 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Those are the correct wheels for a late 964. The Cobalt Blue 964 we featured in Total 911 belongs to a friend and his car is TOTALLY standard; has those wheels and the smaller rear calipers. As said above, they were the standard rims on the late 964s, replacing the D90s and were 16".

(My car is 5 vin numbers away from his and also has the small calipers. Both cars were late '92 build, '93 registered - the larger rear calipers came in '93)