Pagis RS4-2's...how long to settle down?

[TonyHetherington]

Morning all! Lovely weather we're having, eh?

Anyway, did a bit of work on the car at the weekend in preparation for the big hoon (a week thursday, wahoooo!). One of the things was that I changed my pads for RS4-2's (after much advice on here; thanks!).

After finding the proper bedding in procedure on the Pagid website, I proceeded to do as instructed so now 15 ish miles and the pads should be bedded in. However, the bite is not as eye popping as I'd hoped for. The pedals firmish but not huge feel through the middle of the pedal.

Definitely doesn't need bleeding or anything like that and discs are ok.

Will the pads settle down a bit when they have some miles under their belt?

Thanks

[Scuffers]

nope, assuming the disks are OK and not rutted to hell, they should bed in 2 or 3 hard applications...

you description sounds like something new?

[TonyHetherington]

Hmmmm.

Don't get me wrong - they're good, but not as good as I was expecting after the good comments I hear about them (and double the price of any other pad!).

The pedal is basically not as rigid as I'd have thought it would be and just a bit lacking in the middle. The retardation however is good.

[Beachbum]

Keep us upto date on this one, my service is due in about 2 months and the RS-42s were going ot be my pad of choice. So any issues I'd love to hear prior ro making the swap, especially as you say, they are twice as much, as the other options I know of

[TonyHetherington]

Well the car's getting serviced tomorrow so will put another 20 miles on them so they should be as good as they'll get after that. I'll get them up to temperature too (to make surE) and go and give them hell.

Then Thursday week it's off for the hoon so they will certainly get tested to their extremes! I'll be sure to report back. Don't get me wrong, they're not bad, just not as amazing as I thought they were going to be.

[kevin ritson]

I think it's because people hype them up to be equivalent to the second coming. On the road they're fine but won't amaze you - it's the stopping power and fade resistance on track that makes the difference.

[bogie]

kevin ritson said:

I think it's because people hype them up to be equivalent to the second coming. On the road they're fine but won't amaze you - it's the stopping power and fade resistance on track that makes the difference.

exactly - the pads dont affect the pedal stiffness either, some new fluid and a bleed will give you the nice firm pedal again

[TonyHetherington]

Ok thanks chaps! Will get it sorted tomorrow and will be sure to reply to this.

As an aside, I've noticed barely no brake dust at all and that was after giving the pads a good work out. Lovely

[tricky 100]

Your'll be fitting a go faster exhaust and filter next and expecting 200BHP

[bogie]

you dont say what discs you are running?...which can make a huge difference...ideally some AP5000s for hard track work...dosent matter so much on the road

edit to add - although if you use some cheap EBCs, you will find the Pagids eat their way through at a rapid rate...at one point I was nearly at a set of discs to a set of pads until I changed to the APs !

Edited by bogie on Monday 20th August 11:24

[TonyHetherington]

They're standard drilled discs that B&C put on when I bought the car; they have life left in them, but will need to change next pad change I believe.

[cej]

I have the slotted EBC discs and the Rs42s and it's a brilliant combo Absolutely no problems locking up the wheels if I slam the brakes. They bedded in quite fast . Maybe you should consider some new discs

[BrianJ]

The Pagids have a longer life too to compenste for the price.

[vetteheadracer]

If you want better pedal feel I would upgrade to braided brake lines ( a major job for the weekend as it involves removing the front clam!!)
I have the Pagid r42 pads on the Exige and they squealed a lot for the first month.

[ptp170]

vetteheadracer said:

If you want better pedal feel I would upgrade to braided brake lines ( a major job for the weekend as it involves removing the front clam!!)
I have the Pagid r42 pads on the Exige and they squealed a lot for the first month.

Strange...

...I did my braided lines on an S2 a month ago and have no recollection of removing the front clam!

[21TonyK]

ptp170 said:

vetteheadracer said:

If you want better pedal feel I would upgrade to braided brake lines ( a major job for the weekend as it involves removing the front clam!!)
I have the Pagid r42 pads on the Exige and they squealed a lot for the first month.

Strange...

...I did my braided lines on an S2 a month ago and have no recollection of removing the front clam!

I assume you have a 111S? From what I am aware on the R and Exige the front off-side pipe end is obscured by the ABS unit, hence clam off.

If you do have an R or an Exige and you did it without the clam off PLEASE let me know how!

EDIT: Just checked your profile which explains how you managed to do it.

Edited by 21TonyK on Tuesday 21st August 13:04

[PJI]

I can confirm that a S1 Exige has to have the front clam off, mines about to be done.

[TonyHetherington]

Had the brake fluid changed; MUCH better, and what I was hoping for!

All in all, car now perfect for hoon next Thursday; can't wait!

Thanks for the advice everyone, it's now exactly what I wanted :

Tony