Anyone offer advice on an ancient 944?
Anyone offer advice on an ancient 944?
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PATTERNPART

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694 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Hello I'm a Porsche novice although I did try a 944S2 and a 944S and a 968 at the weekend. Plenty of genes in common. I fancy one for weekend use to keep in the garage. No point in tying up lots of money so I'm going for the cheap ones. It is a dilemma. Every improvement means a younger car so I start looking at early 944 then oval dash then 2.7 then 3.0S2 and finally come home with a 968 Club Sport. NOOOO.
Anyway finally found timewarp minter 1 owner FSH from 1985. What corners of the bodywork should I peer into?
Nothing visible from the outside at all! Thanks

Conian

8,030 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Hi Patternpart... Body work usually last real well and should be sound as a pound... but brace yourself for ball-joints!

PH5121

2,007 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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The only body work issue that springs to my mind is rust on the sills, underneath the textured stone chip resistant coating.
BUT It is a while since I had a 944, with age rust may develop in other areas that mine didn't.

PJS917

1,194 posts

279 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Take the air vents out of the B pillars and peer inside, there should be nothing but solid metal, if you can see daylight walk away.
The sills rust and a proper repair is expensive, so check for originality and no bodge repairs. The seems between rear wings and slam panel rust, as does around the windsreen.

They are good solid cars and it should be in fine fettle, mechanically/suspension wise things wear, the gearbox may well whine, not a big issue. The suspension may be tired but nothing is expensive of too dificult to sort.

bob1179

14,140 posts

240 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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1985 Isn't ancient!

A good tip is to look for the original stickers under the bonnet and behind the carpet in the boot, this will give you idea if it's been pranged.

The bodies were galvanised so on a minter rust should be minimal, I do echo what was said about checking the sills though and around the rear arches where chips can damage the coating.

What colour is it? I've always fancied a guards red one with the black fuchs wheels cloud9

Good luck with the purchase! smile

Chris71

21,549 posts

273 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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bob1179 said:
What colour is it? I've always fancied a guards red one with the black fuchs wheels cloud9
Nah, black is the way forward! Mine was Guards Red and had faded quite badly despite spedning most of it's life garaged.

The guy who organises my local TIPEC meetings has a gorgeous black 944. Find myself thinking about buying one again - think it's the bad weather, I'm drawn towards coupes again all of a sudden smile

poprock

1,987 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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If anywhere, they tend to rust on the sills and around the catches on the boot. Oh, and in the very bottom of the storage cubbys on either side of the boot, under the flaps of the boot carpet.

Watch out for one major thing on square-dash 944s—they had a steel fuel tank which was susceptible to rusting itself, especially around the straps that hold it in. The oval-dash model replaced it with a sensible plastic one. You can have these steel tanks refurbished by Porsch-apart near Wigan. They sell you a refurbed one (coated internally with fibreglass) and give you a part-exchange on your existing leaky steel tank.

johnmaddox

141 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Anyone who thinks these cars are rustproof are not in the real world. Galvanising works great for 10 years or so but salted roads of the UK will cause tin worm in the lower wheel arch front unless previous owners have hosed out each wash in the winter - worse on the S2 and Turbo because of the plastic trim.

As stated the sills suffer from condensation and blocked drain holes. The most careful owners have removed the air vent as previous post and sprayed Dinatrol or similar to prevent deterioration.

It's very difficult to find a really good one now - be careful you don't buy one without checking thoroughly as it is very depressing to find the screwdriver goes through the bubbles when you get it home !!

My 944 Turbo was one of the best cars I ever had and I wish I still had it now.

Li Moo Bai

847 posts

236 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Agree with all above but add that they can be prone to rot around the torsion bar-to-body mounts also, if they've not been washed well regularly.

Apart from that they represent excellent VFM IMO smile

HAB

3,632 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Don't know if its been mentioned,but another common area is around the rear number plate lights, and along the top of the windscreen. (caused if the cars had a replacement screen and the fitter broke the paint when removing old rubber/sealant.

I had a mint '84 944 and later on an S2, and the early dash car was easily as much fun as the S2.

The early dash is significantly quicker than the later 2.5 8V (especially midrange acceleration). Its about 150kg lighter and feels it -I know this from experience.

When Autocar tested the updated 944 in '85, they were so surprised at the performance (or lack of) compared to the earlier car that they retested it,thinking they might have received a bad example- they hadn't.

I always regretted selling my old Lux.If I could find a pre '85 car in the same condioion again, I'd buy it tomorrow.

Li Moo Bai

847 posts

236 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Conian said:
... brace yourself for ball-joints!
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This will probably depend on whether it was pre or post the mid '85 model year upgrade..

Early cars had a replaceable balljoint; on later cars it was integral to the control arm rolleyes.

HTH

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PATTERNPART

Original Poster:

694 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Can't thank you lot enough! I'm printing the thread out to take with me as well as my mini Maglite.

I agree about black. The one that made me lick my lips at the weekend was the oldest of the bunch at 1988. It was black.

PATTERNPART

Original Poster:

694 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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Oh, by the way Bob it is a silver one with black Fuchs wheels. The wheels are one of the things that I really like.

Tam Lin

694 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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PATTERNPART said:
Oh, by the way Bob it is a silver one with black Fuchs wheels. The wheels are one of the things that I really like.
Ditto the wheels (see my profile), though mine's an ancient 924S

johnmaddox

141 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st August 2007
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I had a 924S many years ago - drove it in Europe many times and 100% reliable, was faster than a stock 944 (weighed less) and handled with real quality. They are really cheap now and ironically less prone to rust as the sills of different construction.