Nice pork for auction in Japan this week
Nice pork for auction in Japan this week
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bryn_p

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468 posts

260 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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'95 993 RS, 22k miles, service history, no accident damage






'95 993 GT2, 7000 miles, no history, accident damage repaired front and offside





Will be interesting to see how much they sell for... any opinions what they might be worth?

Cheers,
Bryn.

Edited by bryn_p on Monday 27th August 20:03

clubsport

7,417 posts

289 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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£55k for the RS & £105k for the GT2....maybe more for the 2 as the mileage is V low, depends how fussy they are about it having had a bump smile

C2look

3,858 posts

256 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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clubsport said:
£55k for the RS & £105k for the GT2....maybe more for the 2 as the mileage is V low, depends how fussy they are about it having had a bump smile
and no history.......

phelix

4,683 posts

280 months

Monday 27th August 2007
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Maybe it's just me but how important is the service history on a low mileage GT2? Given the cost of the car the bits that need servicing are relatively cheap. The valuable parts of the GT2 are the shell and the VIN; mmany of the other bits prone to wear and tear are the same as the 993tt.

bryn_p

Original Poster:

468 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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My personal opinion is that the RS will sell for £35k-£40k but I have no idea on the GT2. I've never seen one up for auction in Japan before. Actually I've never seen a 964 RS either, and I've been looking for 2 years! Might have a punt on the 993 RS though.

Cheers,
Bryn.

RSPhilip

252 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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35-40 will more than likely be the opeing bid...not the selling price.

RS's are going for 55K plus now for medium mileage cars...low mileage cars like that with no accident damage will pull in much more than that.

It looks almost identical to mine...39000kms, speed yellow, no accident damage etc and I paid 53K....6 months ago.

clubsport

7,417 posts

289 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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RSPhilip said:
35-40 will more than likely be the opeing bid...not the selling price.

RS's are going for 55K plus now for medium mileage cars...low mileage cars like that with no accident damage will pull in much more than that.

It looks almost identical to mine...39000kms, speed yellow, no accident damage etc and I paid 53K....6 months ago.
So you paid £53k 6 months ago and now such a car will sell for more than £55k at auction?......maybe?.......dealers tend not to over bid and many (not all) private buyers like to buy from a dealer for their finance/px/warranty etc....there are low miles cars at dealers available at £57-59k which do not appear to have sold in recent months......I don't know the peculiarities of the far eastern market, but doubt the car will sell at auction much above dealers offered prices confused

RSPhilip

252 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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The 53k did include a thorough check over and shipping to me in Dubai though ;-)

The market does seem to have stalled a little recently..however over time things will get better im sure...I still stand by the fact that 35K ish will be the starting price and not the selling price. The Japanese market can be very strong...as was shown by that lovley green RS that sold recently over there for good money.

We will see im sure...

Agent Orange

2,078 posts

271 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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Peculiarity in particular is the tax position .............

clubsport

7,417 posts

289 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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RSPhilip said:
The 53k did include a thorough check over and shipping to me in Dubai though ;-)

The market does seem to have stalled a little recently..however over time things will get better im sure...I still stand by the fact that 35K ish will be the starting price and not the selling price. The Japanese market can be very strong...as was shown by that lovley green RS that sold recently over there for good money.

We will see im sure...
Green 993 CS is still advertised out of Japan at a different price....(obvioulsy not lower rolleyes

RSPhilip

252 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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looks like people are willing to hold onto them then as investments then an just keep raising the prices....reminds me of the housing market out here. Nobody lives in the houses....they keep building shed loads..all standing empty... yet the rent and house prices are through the roof! Go figure....

bryn_p

Original Poster:

468 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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Start price for the RS is just under £30k.

I've bought some cars very cheaply from auction in Japan, but others that I have bid on have made a fortune. I guess like any auction it just depends on how many people want the car on the day. Something like that is quite likely to find a Japanese buyer hence sell for more than an overseas buyer is willing to pay.

I still reckon it will sell for around £40k though.

Cheers,
Bryn.

baSkey

14,291 posts

257 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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bryn_p said:
Start price for the RS is just under £30k.

I've bought some cars very cheaply from auction in Japan, but others that I have bid on have made a fortune. I guess like any auction it just depends on how many people want the car on the day. Something like that is quite likely to find a Japanese buyer hence sell for more than an overseas buyer is willing to pay.

I still reckon it will sell for around £40k though.

Cheers,
Bryn.
so that's back to around £50k once one has imported it and paid duty and vat..?

are they an 'international' model i.e. jap spec=euro spec?

presumably it still needs SVA etc etc...

if other posters are right about the costs in the UK then importing this car doesn't seem to offer any real benefit really - does it? (that's a quesion not a statement!).

Edited by baSkey on Tuesday 28th August 13:01

bryn_p

Original Poster:

468 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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Yes you're right, if you paid say 9M yen (around £40k) for the car, it would actually end up costing around £51k here in the UK. Then it might need a service and whatever you didn't know was wrong with it putting right. So from a trade point of view it is far too expensive, hence why I will only be bidding in the low £30k's.

If you particularly wanted that colour and mileage etc it might be a good buy as a private individual.

Although there were Japanese market spec Porsches, it is most likely a German spec car that was imported when new. The spec has very few differences anyway.

To register it here it would just need an MOT, and the £50 registration fee as its over 10 years old. Very simple really.

Cheers,
Bryn.

RSPhilip

252 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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As far as I was aware the Jap spec RS's had quite a few major difference's...a bit like an RS Euro and an RS America!?

Can this be confirmed...

doza

63 posts

283 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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how do you get to bid on it as looking for a 993rs cash waiting helpor any one know were any are for sale thamks andy

bryn_p

Original Poster:

468 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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doza said:
how do you get to bid on it as looking for a 993rs cash waiting helpor any one know were any are for sale thamks andy
Hi Andy, if you're serious about bidding on it send me a message through my profile and I can do it for you.

Cheers,
Bryn.