996 Turbo costs - front pads

[///ajd]

Just looking on the porsche uk website for servicing costs for 996:

Front pads only on a C2/C4 etc. is £361, C4S is £449.

Turbo costs are £909 for front pad change only - this is err quite high! Whats the reason for this?
Front pads and discs only (not rears) is £1399!!!

I'd assumed that
a) Turbos and C4S had the same brakes? Seems not form this?
b) Is this mainly an increased labour cost - if so why all the extra effort on a Turbo? Is a DIY job not fairly straightforward using genuine parts (how much are genuine pads?)

Thanks

[Pork_n_Beem]

Handy folk are buying pads for around £250 for 6 pot calipers and self fitting, max 1 hour both sides.

Porsche brakes are very easy to work on cos they are motorsport designed where pads changes have to be fast.

Ring around a few garages, even the most basic garage can change pads on a Porsche.

[///ajd]

Thanks Pork,

Still seems quite a high price for just pads (£250). Obviously the turbo is a high performance car but is there a technical reason why they are so expensive, or is it just that they're bespoke to the turbo and they don't make many, hence high £?

Also, are they hard to change, or is it an easy DIY as on say your average BMW?

Cheers

[Pork_n_Beem]

Not sure on turbos, mines a GT2, but if you have the 6 pot caliper, identified by three round impressions on the side of the caliper then the pads are actually huge. £250 is actually about right in comparison with what i am paying for competition pads on a BMW.

Unfortunately high performance pads often cost between three and ten times the price of bog standard pads. porsche pads by their nature are high performance pads

My old 993 turbo had 4 pot calipers and the pads were only £100 but they were much smaller.

If you use a garage already that you trust, i would choose a garage that is local and services many different types of car, preferably owner managed.

It takes so little time he should be able to do it before you have read the paper and had a cup of tea.

[Pork_n_Beem]

To put it in perspective, i changed the rear brakes discs and pads on my wifes VW Golf. It was truly a pain and took twice as long.

For DIY you need to be able to jack the car up, remove wheel, find a 13mm spanner, find a small screwdriver, a small hammer a large scredriver and a pair of mole grips.

The hardest part is getting all the pistons back in one go, i use a combination of the old pads, a screwdriver and a piece of plywood.

It really is a piece of 8iss.

BTW the pad material is special for these vehicles and mark up on brake pads can be huge often 50% and more !!!

So you have to shop around,

[Dave 500]

Its a Con I think most owners will just pay and put it down to Porsche ownership. Track down some pads and fit them yourself and save yourself £700.00. The joke of it is it would take someone who has no idea what they are doing 2 hours tops. Have a go and if your not sure ask here loads of people ready to help.

Get to know your car not your stealer

PS if you don't what to I only charge £550 per hour which is a lot cheeper than your stealer.

[///ajd]

Thanks for the replies. I've not changed pads myself for nearly 20 years on a Cavalier when student hardship dictated, but recall it was a fairly easy job.

At over £900 at a dealer its clearly a skill I'll look to relearn!

I can't really see a reason why pads for the road should be much more expensive than those on a decent BMW capable of 150mph.

ECP has 996 turbo front brake pads at £60 for ATE, £160 for "Genuine". Also lists dampening plate at £18 and sensor at £6.

(Front ATE pads for my BMW 330d are only £32 (listed as "Genuine" part no). Textar, which I recall are the OEM for BMW 330d are not listed at the moment).

Edited by ///ajd on Sunday 2nd September 20:25

[freedman]

///ajd said:

Just looking on the porsche uk website for servicing costs for 996:

Front pads only on a C2/C4 etc. is £361, C4S is £449.

Turbo costs are £909 for front pad change only - this is err quite high! Whats the reason for this?
Front pads and discs only (not rears) is £1399!!!

I'd assumed that
a) Turbos and C4S had the same brakes? Seems not form this?
b) Is this mainly an increased labour cost - if so why all the extra effort on a Turbo? Is a DIY job not fairly straightforward using genuine parts (how much are genuine pads?)

Thanks

You've got your costs mixed up

Front pads on a turbo are £476 the same as a C4S
Discs and pads are £904

Rears are £332 for pads and £763 for Pads and discs

This is fro the official menu pricing

[///ajd]

freedman said:

///ajd said:

Just looking on the porsche uk website for servicing costs for 996:

Front pads only on a C2/C4 etc. is £361, C4S is £449.

Turbo costs are £909 for front pad change only - this is err quite high! Whats the reason for this?
Front pads and discs only (not rears) is £1399!!!

I'd assumed that
a) Turbos and C4S had the same brakes? Seems not form this?
b) Is this mainly an increased labour cost - if so why all the extra effort on a Turbo? Is a DIY job not fairly straightforward using genuine parts (how much are genuine pads?)

Thanks

You've got your costs mixed up

Front pads on a turbo are £476 the same as a C4S
Discs and pads are £904

Rears are £332 for pads and £763 for Pads and discs

This is fro the official menu pricing

I took the prices from the official menu pricing from the website as per link (this is the Aug 2007 edition of the menu - perhaps the one you're looking at is out of date?) :

http://files.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/default.pd...

[damiangt3]

///ajd said:

freedman said:

///ajd said:

Just looking on the porsche uk website for servicing costs for 996:

Front pads only on a C2/C4 etc. is £361, C4S is £449.

Turbo costs are £909 for front pad change only - this is err quite high! Whats the reason for this?
Front pads and discs only (not rears) is £1399!!!

I'd assumed that
a) Turbos and C4S had the same brakes? Seems not form this?
b) Is this mainly an increased labour cost - if so why all the extra effort on a Turbo? Is a DIY job not fairly straightforward using genuine parts (how much are genuine pads?)

Thanks

You've got your costs mixed up

Front pads on a turbo are £476 the same as a C4S
Discs and pads are £904

Rears are £332 for pads and £763 for Pads and discs

This is fro the official menu pricing

I took the prices from the official menu pricing from the website as per link (this is the Aug 2007 edition of the menu - perhaps the one you're looking at is out of date?) :

http://files.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/default.pd...

Those prices are incorrect, the C4S and Turbo should be the same. I reckon they've got the GT3 and Turbo pricings switched around.

[USS Bozeman]

///ajd said:

Turbo costs are £909 for front pad change only - this is err quite high! Whats the reason for this?
Front pads and discs only (not rears) is £1399!!!

Bit wrong somewhere - so you are saying 909 for pads & 1399 for pads & disks - so disks are just 400 for 2 fully fitted ? Doesn't sound right.

Porsche charge roughly £1000 for front brakes & disks fitted, slightly less for rears (I guess due to the rear disks or pads being a little smaller?)

[damiangt3]

The rear pads of a C4S/Turbo are the same as the fronts on a C2/C4.

[///ajd]

It does look like a mix up of the GT3 and turbo prices in the official menu. I wonder if any turbo owners have been 'accidentally' overcharged yet....? (or whether GT3 owners can get their brakes done at C4S/turbo prices...!)

[Ir Baboon]

///ajd said:

or whether GT3 owners can get their brakes done at C4S/turbo prices..

Does that apply to my PCCBs too?

[USS Bozeman]

Friend just had front disks & pads done on his TT at an OPC - was charged about £900.

[clubsport]

Seems quite high for just pads.

here is an idea from the JZ machtech service menu, they seem to have a good reputation amongst sepcialists.

http://www.jzmachtech.com/shells/service_index.php...

[Pork_n_Beem]

Not fair to compare BMW road pads to Porsche. A BMW would last about 2.5 laps of any decent cct before they gave up, a porsche oem pad, if you drive it right can go on all day.

i used to track my turbo4 on OEM pads,

[bluesatin]

If you fit yourself (pagid blue and OE discs) you can do both for less than £400

[///ajd]

clubsport said:

Seems quite high for just pads.

here is an idea from the JZ machtech service menu, they seem to have a good reputation amongst sepcialists.

http://www.jzmachtech.com/shells/service_index.php...

Says they use only genuine parts and they'll do 996TT front pads fitted inc VAT for £270. This seems more like it.