Calling all BoLOCs !!!!!!!

[deepseatiger]

Just to let you know that Gooby has been Sin Binned for questioning the mods reaction to the thread , on close examination of the rules none has been broken ,Is this another example of mods being heavy handed ???

[sramdeen]

Sin Binned? You mean, like, temporarily banned?

[deepseatiger]

yes not allowed to post!!!!

[cyberface]

As per my last post - if true, then this place is going down the toilet. I've been here since 2002 and it's never been this heavy handed.

Remember that PH exists because of its community. It's almost anarcho-socialist in structure. Impose dictators on top to determine what topics are suitable and which are verboten and people will move away.

I used to post vast amounts, the last few weeks I've lost interest in the shit in P&P and have cut right back. Jumped in on this thread since it riles me (some asshole ripped my number plate off my VXT a couple of weeks ago - and today found a black 111S Elise with black OZ wheels parked on my road with a similarly ripped off numberplate) but I won't be regular if every post is scanned for 'acceptable content'....

Shame. PH really was the best. 5 years in one community for me is impressive, I haven't had a job or contract last that long ever!!!!

[Kinky]

Kevin,

Please check your facts before making wildly inaccurate statements.

K

[Kinky]

cyberface said:

As per my last post - if true, then this place is going down the toilet.

Have no fear. It's not true. The facts speak for themselves.

Although they appear to have been overlooked.

K

[deepseatiger]

Kinky said:

Kevin,

Please check your facts before making wildly inaccurate statements.

K

What is inaccurate he is not allowed to post ??

[FourWheelDrift]

deepseatiger said:

Kinky said:

Kevin,

Please check your facts before making wildly inaccurate statements.

K

What is inaccurate he is not allowed to post ??

Terms and conditions of posting specifically state that you cannot use Unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libellous, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's privacy, then getting personally abusive with a moderator for following the sites rules.

Is that too difficult to understand?

[deepseatiger]

FourWheelDrift said:

deepseatiger said:

Kinky said:

Kevin,

Please check your facts before making wildly inaccurate statements.

K

What is inaccurate he is not allowed to post ??

Terms and conditions of posting specifically state that you cannot use Unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libellous, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's privacy, then getting personally abusive with a moderator for following the sites rules.

Is that too difficult to understand?

Whre was he abusive ??

[Kinky]

deepseatiger said:

Whre was he abusive ??

I removed the reference.

K

[FourWheelDrift]

cyberface said:

but I won't be regular if every post is scanned for 'acceptable content'....

They always have been, that's what a moderator does and for a whole lot longer than you have been here. Some of them are missed most of them are spotted and others are reported to the moderators by readers.

[cyberface]

FourWheelDrift said:

cyberface said:

but I won't be regular if every post is scanned for 'acceptable content'....

They always have been, that's what a moderator does and for a whole lot longer than you have been here. Some of them are missed most of them are spotted and others are reported to the moderators by readers.

Not trying to make a point about age - you've been here 2 years more than me, obviously. And I'm well aware that moderators have been in force since the beginning otherwise PH wouldn't have kept itself together as it became more popular.

Just this particular case has riled a lot of people, and no clear and present legal danger appears to cause an imperative for the thread to be locked. Do you have lawyers on call on Sunday nights?

[Kinky]

cyberface said:

FourWheelDrift said:

cyberface said:

but I won't be regular if every post is scanned for 'acceptable content'....

They always have been, that's what a moderator does and for a whole lot longer than you have been here. Some of them are missed most of them are spotted and others are reported to the moderators by readers.

Not trying to make a point about age - you've been here 2 years more than me, obviously. And I'm well aware that moderators have been in force since the beginning otherwise PH wouldn't have kept itself together as it became more popular.

Just this particular case has riled a lot of people, and no clear and present legal danger appears to cause an imperative for the thread to be locked. Do you have lawyers on call on Sunday nights?

You were here when we had the BRAKE incident. It is no different to that.

K

[deepseatiger]

Still dont understand the red card without warning on someone who has over 5000+ posts and a valued and respected member of the LOTUS (not any other marque community) ,unlike me from the old school say what you see as a forum is a place to express ones thoughts opinions and as i said in an earlier post if i post something that is open to litigation then its on my head notp/h

[FourWheelDrift]

coyft said:

FourWheelDrift said:

cyberface said:

but I won't be regular if every post is scanned for 'acceptable content'....

They always have been, that's what a moderator does and for a whole lot longer than you have been here. Some of them are missed most of them are spotted and others are reported to the moderators by readers.

That's a bit rude isn't it? He has been on here for over 4 years and has posted over 5,000 times.

Not really and wasn't meant to be.

Just trying to say that it's a historical thing and these types of threads have always been closed or removed, often before the masses see them so they aren't common knowledge.

[FourWheelDrift]

deepseatiger said:

if i post something that is open to litigation then its on my head notp/h

No, PH will be dragged into the legal implications because it's allowed to be seen on a public forum. Do you not recall the negative TV and newspaper coverage this site got when someone on here made death threats at a certain anti-speed campaigner?

Edited to add - I guess that's before your time as it was 2+ years ago now.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 3rd September 00:18

[deepseatiger]

FourWheelDrift said:

deepseatiger said:

if i post something that is open to litigation then its on my head notp/h

No, PH will be dragged into the legal implications because it's allowed to be seen on a public forum. Do you not recall the negative TV and newspaper coverage this site got when someone on here made death threats at a certain anti-speed campaigner?

Edited to add - I guess that's before your time as it was 2+ years ago now.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 3rd September 00:18

rule 4.1 eliminates p/h from legal zction thought you would know the rules as you have vbeen on here so long TOUCHE

[Kinky]

Legal action yes.

Press coverage no.

[FourWheelDrift]

deepseatiger said:

FourWheelDrift said:

deepseatiger said:

if i post something that is open to litigation then its on my head notp/h

No, PH will be dragged into the legal implications because it's allowed to be seen on a public forum. Do you not recall the negative TV and newspaper coverage this site got when someone on here made death threats at a certain anti-speed campaigner?

Edited to add - I guess that's before your time as it was 2+ years ago now.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 3rd September 00:18

rule 4.1 eliminates p/h from legal zction thought you would know the rules as you have vbeen on here so long TOUCHE

That's the new bit introduced, the "covering your arse" clause. The legal people would still go for the site but that's the possible get out even if it is proven. I'm sure it's the hassle that is trying to be avoided. Stopping it before it gets that far.

[cyberface]

Kinky said:

cyberface said:

FourWheelDrift said:

cyberface said:

but I won't be regular if every post is scanned for 'acceptable content'....

They always have been, that's what a moderator does and for a whole lot longer than you have been here. Some of them are missed most of them are spotted and others are reported to the moderators by readers.

Not trying to make a point about age - you've been here 2 years more than me, obviously. And I'm well aware that moderators have been in force since the beginning otherwise PH wouldn't have kept itself together as it became more popular.

Just this particular case has riled a lot of people, and no clear and present legal danger appears to cause an imperative for the thread to be locked. Do you have lawyers on call on Sunday nights?

You were here when we had the BRAKE incident. It is no different to that.

K

The BRAKE incident referred to an ill-advised comment in a forum picked up by a professional spin-machine media organisation and span badly back against PH, which at the time didn't have professional legal representation IIRC.

The current incident is cut-and-dried evidence from a bunch of cretins who firstly aren't a professional spin-machine media organisation, and secondly PH has the legal backing of Haymarket. Contacts with Top Gear and other media outlets should make it very easy to do some damage to these fools, even if it isn't mediaeval poleaxes and pitchforks.

The new disclaimer prevents Haymarket for taking legal responsibility for individual flame comments - plenty of people post oddball crap here when drunk or high (and I sadly admit to this on the odd occasion).

So why the problem. Yes it looks like a witch-hunt, but it's not 'small web-team PH' versus 'big media BRAKE spin-machine' .... it's 'Haymarket Media Legal' versus 'three scrotes with an IQ low enough to post identifying vandalism on the internet'.

Sod the law, just send a headed letter to the army guy's old regimental CO saying he's bringing the regiment into disrepute. That should be the end of it, no?