964 'Celebration'
964 'Celebration'
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baSkey

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14,291 posts

257 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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okay so the 964 celebration is 'turbobodied'. but is it a turbo (965) shell or just a 964 with the wings from a turbo?

what i am getting at is that the turbo and RS were at least seam welded and maybe had some extra reinforcement too.

is the 'celebration' 'better' than a normal 964 therefore..?

Slippydiff

16,483 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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AFAIK the Celebration used a standard C4 shell with the Turbo wings and rear quarters.
It thus uses the narrow track rear suspension of the C2/4 rather than the wide track turbo set up.

baSkey

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14,291 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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i thought that was probably the case.

i have got a mate in australia who's got a mate who's got one (but he just sounds like a flash harry rather than a true 'enthusiast') and he was telling my mate (who doubted him) that it 'was a turbo without the turbo engine'. a still a nice car but not what he was saying then..! (as i suspected).

Fastlane

1,351 posts

248 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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baSkey said:
okay so the 964 celebration is 'turbobodied'. but is it a turbo (965) shell or just a 964 with the wings from a turbo?

what i am getting at is that the turbo and RS were at least seam welded and maybe had some extra reinforcement too.

is the 'celebration' 'better' than a normal 964 therefore..?
Surely the basic monocoque/body shell/chassis is the same for all 964s? The 964 RS was seam welded but I've never heard of this for a 965 and I've got a 965...

I think the way your mate's mate described the Celebration model as a Turbo without the turbo (excepting the 4 wheel drive) is a pretty fair layman's description...

Edited by Fastlane on Wednesday 5th September 13:53

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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Yes, similar to the old Carerra 3.2 Supersport. A turbo bodied Carerra for those who like the Turbo look without the grunt. The additional "manual" seam welding on the 964RS was specific to that model to help stiffen up the shell. I doubt the production turbo would have had that treatment too (but I'm not sure).

baSkey

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14,291 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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Fastlane said:
baSkey said:
okay so the 964 celebration is 'turbobodied'. but is it a turbo (965) shell or just a 964 with the wings from a turbo?

what i am getting at is that the turbo and RS were at least seam welded and maybe had some extra reinforcement too.

is the 'celebration' 'better' than a normal 964 therefore..?
Surely the basic monocoque/body shell/chassis is the same for all 964s? The 964 RS was seam welded but I've never heard of this for a 965 and I've got a 965...

I think the way your mate's mate described the Celebration model as a Turbo without the turbo (excepting the 4 wheel drive) is a pretty fair layman's description...

Edited by Fastlane on Wednesday 5th September 13:53
to be fair that read's 'stronger' than intended.

I have heard that the turbo does have a subtly differnt shell to a standard car. i can't remember if it were seamwelding or subtly different reinforcement.. maybe that person was wrong.

the thing is even if i am incorrect about the bodywork as said the suspension etc is different.
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stuttgartmetal

8,167 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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uktrailmonster said:
Yes, similar to the old Carerra 3.2 Supersport. A turbo bodied Carerra for those who like the Turbo look without the grunt. The additional "manual" seam welding on the 964RS was specific to that model to help stiffen up the shell. I doubt the production turbo would have had that treatment too (but I'm not sure).
I think you'll find the 3.2 Supersport had Turbo brakes and suspension.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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stuttgartmetal said:
I think you'll find the 3.2 Supersport had Turbo brakes and suspension.
I wouldn't know, it's not a model that interests me. I much prefer the standard Carrera.
Same goes for the 964 Celebration. I can't see what it would add to the standard car other than a Turbo look for those who like that kind of thing.

stuttgartmetal

8,167 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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uktrailmonster said:
stuttgartmetal said:
I think you'll find the 3.2 Supersport had Turbo brakes and suspension.
I wouldn't know, it's not a model that interests me. I much prefer the standard Carrera.
Same goes for the 964 Celebration. I can't see what it would add to the standard car other than a Turbo look for those who like that kind of thing.
Me too.

The widebodied cars had a higher dC index, and were 10MPH slower, but stopped and handled better.



Edited by stuttgartmetal on Wednesday 5th September 17:01

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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stuttgartmetal said:
The widebodied cars had a higher dC index, and were 10MPH slower, but stopped and handled better.
With the extra weight, did it actually handle and stop better though? Haven't driven a SS personally by the way, but the standard 3.2 seems well matched in terms of power and chassis.