GT3 question

[woogie]

Question : everytime I look at someones profile and they have a 996 gt3 I get the impression it's some sort of rocket ship. If a carrera has 300 bhp and a gt3 has 360 bhp does that extra 60 bhp really make that much diff? Ok it's gotta be quicker but is it much quicker ??

[Ir Baboon]

woogie said:

Question : everytime I look at someones profile and they have a 996 gt3 I get the impression it's some sort of rocket ship. If a carrera has 300 bhp and a gt3 has 360 bhp does that extra 60 bhp really make that much diff? Ok it's gotta be quicker but is it much quicker ??

Oh yes

Im sure you know all this, but let me get my soap box out

They really are very different cars. Suspension set up, and therefore the handling is totally different the car really can be driven on the throttle And then there is the engine Its based on the Le Mans GT1 car bottom end and has just about nothing in common with the water-cooled unit found in the Carreras. IIRC power to weight on a C2/C4 3.4 996 is about 222-230 per ton for a GT3 MK2 it is nearer 275 per ton. You really feel your head been thrown back when you accelerate, and from the passenger seat you can feel your heart being pushed back - awesome car

Edited by Ir Baboon on Tuesday 4th September 15:01

[G T 3]

And 381 horses for mk2.I have driven both c2 300hp and GT3 and I thought it could not be a big difference but it sure is, big time.

[Ballcock]

Having only driven a GT3 once , and for only 20 miles , I'm unqualified to add to this conversation ...


But hell that ain't going to stop me!!

It's not so much the raw power .. And yes there isa noticeable difference in raw power ...

It's more the package;
The sports seats, the bulls bars behind your ears , the feel of the steering , and most of all , the sound of that engine :fughin yummy: , it sounds SOOOO unlike the wet sumper .. It fidgets at idle and has a greedy rasping roar that bites your feckin head off when you're going for it.

All the above , PLUS the power difference is what made the whole thing feel interplanetary for me .

[woogie]

Looks like I need to have a go in one of these gt3's, or a passenger ride maybe.

Then a turbo with 450 bhp must be a step up again, they must look down on gt3's ?

Edited by woogie on Tuesday 4th September 15:48

[Ballcock]

woogie said:

.. Looks like I need to have a go in one ...

.. But it may be an upsetting experience !!

I can't afford one over here in Ireland with the prohibitive car tax , and it kinda drives me nuts that I can't get my hands on one ...
Ah well , some day...





Any chance of an interest free loan?

[Koln-RS]

woogie said:

Then a turbo with 450 bhp must be a step up again, they must look down on gt3's ?

Edited by woogie on Tuesday 4th September 15:48

I've driven both and in practice the difference in performance isn't that great. They deliver it so differently. The GT3 engine feels like the powerband is a piece of elastic, whereas the TT delivers a huge thump in a much narrower range.

I know which I would prefer

[Ir Baboon]

woogie said:

Looks like I need to have a go in one of these gt3's, or a passenger ride maybe.

Then a turbo with 450 bhp must be a step up again, they must look down on gt3's ?

Edited by woogie on Tuesday 4th September 15:48

I wouldnt say that at all.

Look at how Porsche list their 911 range on their website, Carrera at the top, head down the list through C2S, C4S etc, then there is the Turbo. All very logical so far in as much as they follow the price structure. Then below the Turbo there is the GT3 and GT3RS, cheaper but in a league of their own

[woogie]

Koln-RS said:

woogie said:

Then a turbo with 450 bhp must be a step up again, they must look down on gt3's ?

Edited by woogie on Tuesday 4th September 15:48

I've driven both and in practice the difference in performance isn't that great. They deliver it so differently. The GT3 engine feels like the powerband is a piece of elastic, whereas the TT delivers a huge thump in a much narrower range.

I know which I would prefer

What would you prefer then ?

[Sean Edwards]

Of course all Porsche's are lovely, but some are more suited or built towards the track. Power does not mean overall speed round a track, I could probably lap faster in a GT3 or RS then in a turbo, as the turbo (as standard) is more of a road car.

Power is not everything remember and a good example of this is when I raced a 997 cup car in the Porsche open with a customer this year and I was against a Bi Turbo with around 680hp, compared to my 400 and I still beat it by quite a long way. Ok some was down to the driver, but the 997 cup car was better in the corners, but not so good in the straight. Round a lap the 997 cup was faster though.

If you are just talking about straight line speed, then yes, normally the more hp the faster it goes

Edited by Sean Edwards on Tuesday 4th September 16:26

[Koln-RS]

woogie said:

Koln-RS said:

woogie said:

Then a turbo with 450 bhp must be a step up again, they must look down on gt3's ?

Edited by woogie on Tuesday 4th September 15:48

I've driven both and in practice the difference in performance isn't that great. They deliver it so differently. The GT3 engine feels like the powerband is a piece of elastic, whereas the TT delivers a huge thump in a much narrower range.

I know which I would prefer

What would you prefer then ?

The one with the fabulous chassis, steering and engine noise (begins with a G... )

[Silver993tt]

Sean Edwards said:

Power is not everything

That's right. On the roead it's torque that makes the better car and the turbo will have alot more throughout the entire useable area on the tach.

[cardigankid]

Sean Edwards said:

Power is not everything remember and a good example of this is when I raced a 997 cup car in the Porsche open with a customer this year and I was against a Bi Turbo with around 680hp, compared to my 400 and I still beat it by quite a long way. Ok some was down to the driver...

Edited by Sean Edwards on Tuesday 4th September 16:26

Its the modesty I admire!

[mailey]

i am a GT3 RS owner, i will only say a few words, it is the fastest thing out there, i have been very lucky to have owned a host of very fast cars all different makes and models, this car is by far the fastest and most capable of all, nothing has ever come close to it,

[G T 3]

Mailey is it faster than a GT3 in reality,or are you comparing it to other cars, not a GT3