After Meguiars?

[Jaguar steve]

Any suggestions for wax that's as good or better than Meguiars Gold Class, but easier to use?

I've done the whole Meguiars process - clay bar, step 1 cleaner, step 2 wax and three coats of Gold Class on my Carnival red Jaguar, and have to admit that although it's hard work and takes ages, the results are pretty good.

But 1: The wax soon looses the real depth of shine and ability to bead water.

But 2: The whole process is very time consuming.

Is is time to spend more and try some P21S or Poorboys?

JS

[morebeanz]

P21S is a great show wax, but also loses it's shine quite quickly. If you want a more durable finish, try Collinite 476 - it's probably not as deep a finish as P21S but should be much better than the Meguiars.

As another alternative, you could try Dodo Juice wax - I reckon it's about half way between the durability of Collinite and the showmanship of P21S.

[Shine-On]

Just to add, Gold Class wax is designed as a bit of an all-in-one type product, it has cleaners in it. Therefore there really isn't much benenfit to adding multiple layers in one go because you will remove as much of the last layer as you are adding a new one - so you're not miving forward as such.

P21 is ok, nothing special in my opinion, its durability is poor as said. I'm a big fan of Chemical Guys products, their 50/50 Connossieur Paste Wax is excellent, available from www.carwashnwax.co.uk.

[PJ S]

Jaguar steve said:

But 1: The wax soon looses the real depth of shine and ability to bead water.

That's 'cause it's washed off - there's nothing there to offer protection for the paint.

Jaguar steve said:

Is is time to spend more and try some P21S or Poorboys?

Cost isn't the only thing to take into consideration - a product's effectiveness is.
Let me demonstrate:



The centre section of each strip is how the steel looked prior to wax/sealant applied, and still is with the company's own product.
Now, given #6 is likely to cost you £250-300 at your dealer's and "protect" the paint for 18-36 months with only a bucket of water thrown over the car to wash it, you'd be thinking their product must be very expensive.
Yep, far too expensive at £15 + P&P for 300 ml.
I mean, how dare they charge THAT much just to protect your paintwork and bare metal though stone chip damage for at least 14 days with one application.
Well, I've got mine and will be using it very soon, once I've had the swirls and scratches dealt with - no point trying to polish a turd now, is there?

If you need a clue, I used their clay bar recently....

[Huw Pugh]

You won't go wrong with Victoria Collectors or Concours Wax. Awesome products. For some added shine, you could try a sealant before waxing. My choice favourite being Chemical Guys Jetseal109 - faultless!

[belleair302]

To really get a decent shine you need to do a good surface preparation job, then apply some glaze. Ater this the best waxes without spending vast amounts of cash include Dodo Juice, Victoria, ClearKote, Swissvax or P21S which looks great but does not last more than a month.

[hutchingsp]

If time is a concern I'd look at a sealant.

I've been using Fire Glaze on my Boxster for the last four or five months (I think) and it's superb stuff given that it cost £2 off eBay.

If your paint is in good shape to begin with it's a very, very easy on/off product and last a very long time.

[jon-]

While I use poorboys on my daily these days and just top up the wax every month or so the Zymol range has great durability.

[grand cherokee]

i've found a wax that imo is better than Vics etc - especially on dark paints

Blackfire - Wet Diamond - Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax

comes in a nice case with applicator pad and very good microfibre cloth - about £55 from UK distributors

very easy to apply in a thin layer - and a big plus is no problem if you get it on rubber trim etc

all in all very good imo

[joesnow]

I've found the Autoglym extra gloss protection to be long lasting. This is after:

wash
clay
super resin polish

water has beeded for weeks after. It is really easy to wash down as well.

[Sam Gamgee]

p21s prewax/cleaner

Mothers sealer glaze

p21s wax

Mothers top coat

Seems to work well for me, although only do the full clay monty about ttwice a year...my griff leads an easy life cossetted in a garage when not used. My dear old alfa gets hard life as does my other halfs a4! They do get waxed but with rather less care. How illogical is that.
TBH I think each has thier preferred, tried many, settled with these. Think swissol etc too pricey for similar finish, just need to prepare well prior to waxing.

Dave.

Oh and jon-nice pic of your 350 on profile...!

Edited by Sam Gamgee on Friday 7th September 23:05

[hutchingsp]

I'll be the first to admit pictures aren't everything, but here's an example of why, IMO prep is the key.

As I said before, this is with a product that cost me £1.99, other than because looking after the car is something I happen to enjoy (when it isn't pissing it down with rain) I'm finding it very hard to justify spending a penny more on waxes and sealants etc.

[Jaguar steve]

hutchingsp said:

I'll be the first to admit pictures aren't everything, but here's an example of why, IMO prep is the key.

As I said before, this is with a product that cost me £1.99, other than because looking after the car is something I happen to enjoy (when it isn't pissing it down with rain) I'm finding it very hard to justify spending a penny more on waxes and sealants etc.

That's superb...Fireglaze it is then...cheers

Nice Porker too

[belleair302]

Is that 'Orange Peel' behind the drivers door....uh oh!