RE: Beers Talking
Monday 3rd December 2001
Beers Talking
How many beers does it take to improve your driving?
Discussion
Why does this not surpise me about Max Power people? Aren't these the same bunch who think that by simply fitting bigger spoilers, exhausts and wheels that there 1.3 Nova suddenly will handle like a Ferrari, accelerate like a TVR and stop like a Porsche ?
Speaking of which, there was a very tastefully done (NOT) Nova 1.3 in my local Homebase car park recently with a front bumper/spoiler that must have come off a Mitsi EvoVI! Looked bloody awful.....
Speaking of which, there was a very tastefully done (NOT) Nova 1.3 in my local Homebase car park recently with a front bumper/spoiler that must have come off a Mitsi EvoVI! Looked bloody awful.....
Not even those mugs can honestly say ANY drink would imrpove their driving. Knowing the sort of readers you get with MP I'd say they were sodding around or it was a rather strangely worded question... not even they are that stupid - remember we all started somewhere, nearly all of us started out on the modded hatches before "gorwing up" (or not ;-) )
An honest-to-God quote from a mate's dad about biking in the 60s:
"I ride better after a couple of pints, besides your mother used to have a couple of drinks to keep her warm, she'd often fall asleep on the pillion..."
As for the "Max Power brigade" they have my sympathies, although they don't do themselves any favours. I think that what they are looking for can be found in a 950cc Renault 5 and probably ANY 205, 106 or Saxo. Okay, Nova's are cheap (are they STILL cheap to insure?) and make better power for the engine size than most. I don't understand the Corsa fascination, though.
Here's an idea, guys, DON'T fit spoilers/MaxPower stickers to your car and plod won't spot you quite so easily.
Personally I found my old Renault 5 to be the greatest teacher of car control and forward planning. You want to overtake? Are you sure? Hehe. Oversteer, understeer, drift - marvellous.
Jon
"I ride better after a couple of pints, besides your mother used to have a couple of drinks to keep her warm, she'd often fall asleep on the pillion..."
As for the "Max Power brigade" they have my sympathies, although they don't do themselves any favours. I think that what they are looking for can be found in a 950cc Renault 5 and probably ANY 205, 106 or Saxo. Okay, Nova's are cheap (are they STILL cheap to insure?) and make better power for the engine size than most. I don't understand the Corsa fascination, though.
Here's an idea, guys, DON'T fit spoilers/MaxPower stickers to your car and plod won't spot you quite so easily.
Personally I found my old Renault 5 to be the greatest teacher of car control and forward planning. You want to overtake? Are you sure? Hehe. Oversteer, understeer, drift - marvellous.
Jon
Perhaps the world would be a safer place if Max Power just dropped the automotive content and renamed itself Max Jordan. I couldn't help noticing it on the shelves recently with the inclusion of free laminated (waterproof) poster of the aforementioned, and the following issue with more of the same and advice to "jostle yourself stupid". If the readership of 5-pint F1 aces stayed in their bedrooms with their posters and a 4-pack of Kestrel we'd all have less to worry about. Of course, Halfords might also feel a squeeze (fnarr) on sales of their Ripspeed line. Probably not a major concern to the rest of us though.
Hmmm I find this all a bit daft.
For starters the media are assuming that readers of Max Power are representative of males in the 20-29 age group (as stated on the beeb this am) which is ovbiously not true.
Exrapolating the findings of a max power survey re 'being sensible and driving' to the poulation at large is about as useful as talking to a tree and suggesting that it represents the view of the countryside.
Lies damn lies and statistics.
BTW anyone know how many people actualy read M*X P*WER? (ok read is the wrong word entirely, what I mean is - whats its circulation?)
Edited by mr_tony on Monday 3rd December 10:38
For starters the media are assuming that readers of Max Power are representative of males in the 20-29 age group (as stated on the beeb this am) which is ovbiously not true.
Exrapolating the findings of a max power survey re 'being sensible and driving' to the poulation at large is about as useful as talking to a tree and suggesting that it represents the view of the countryside.
Lies damn lies and statistics.
BTW anyone know how many people actualy read M*X P*WER? (ok read is the wrong word entirely, what I mean is - whats its circulation?)
Edited by mr_tony on Monday 3rd December 10:38
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Speaking of which, there was a very tastefully done (NOT) Nova 1.3 in my local Homebase car park recently with a front bumper/spoiler that must have come off a Mitsi EvoVI! Looked bloody awful.....
Please tell me you live in/near Chesterfield cirks and the car concerned was white(with a hint of rust.) If not then there's more than one of these abominations out there !
Some bod who was involved in the survey was on R4 this AM saying that they chose Max Power readers because this gave them a representative sample of the young ! My ar$e it did... (and I speak as a 25yr old whose best mate used to drive a bright red AX 1.0 with flared arches, 17" alloys and a sound system to raise the dead. (it lived in Duffield, Derbys.))
I think this just goes to show the mentality of a lot of MP readers, something to think about the next time you're alongside a shagged Astra GTE at the lights in your Tiv/Porker/whatever.
Further to this, why does Beeston have the highest concentration of Maxed motors in the East mids ? It can't just be the presence of "Smart Car."
Edited by jaydee on Monday 3rd December 11:41
Arrrgh. I too am not surprised by these results. In the past, before I bludgeoned some sense in them, (younger) friends of mine have said things like: "I drive better after a drink, it calms my nerves." Or (and I like this one a lot too) "I drive better on dope."
It makes me want to scream and slap some bloody sense into them. Those nerves they think they're getting rid of, to make them a "calmer" driver are the only thing that'll save them in a sticky situation.
Hrrrmpf. Rant over.
It makes me want to scream and slap some bloody sense into them. Those nerves they think they're getting rid of, to make them a "calmer" driver are the only thing that'll save them in a sticky situation.
Hrrrmpf. Rant over.
And let's not forget that the average age of the readership of Max Pooer is around 17, which implies there's a large percentage of the readership that may not actually be able to drive yet.
Oh, and that that's legally not able to drive as opposed to unable to drive properly because they're complete f**kwits....
Oh, and that that's legally not able to drive as opposed to unable to drive properly because they're complete f**kwits....
I've noticed on the several times that I've been using Mr WHSmith's fine newsagents as a reading library that most people attracted to the Max Power/Revs/Redline style magazine are (or appear to be) significantly under the age of 17.
The phenomenem is not confined to these shores either, last week whilst stocking up on cheap beer at the Citi d'Europe I spotted a French Citroen BX with unpainted Subaru style bonnet vents and stuck on 'quick-release' bonnet pins.
But the car which actually made me laugh out loud in a car park this weekend was a bog-standard looking burgundy coloured Corsa 1.2 which had a huge (i.e. filling the whole rear window) sticker saying '16 VALVE'.
Edited by Guy Humpage on Monday 3rd December 13:28
The phenomenem is not confined to these shores either, last week whilst stocking up on cheap beer at the Citi d'Europe I spotted a French Citroen BX with unpainted Subaru style bonnet vents and stuck on 'quick-release' bonnet pins.
But the car which actually made me laugh out loud in a car park this weekend was a bog-standard looking burgundy coloured Corsa 1.2 which had a huge (i.e. filling the whole rear window) sticker saying '16 VALVE'.
Edited by Guy Humpage on Monday 3rd December 13:28
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Please tell me you live in/near Chesterfield cirks and the car concerned was white(with a hint of rust.) If not then there's more than one of these abominations out there !
Oh dear - it looks like there are at least two abominations out there as I live in Herts. The one down here though is also white (well, actually about 4 different versions of white as none of the spoilers, skirts, bonnet etc actually matched)!
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I've no idea about circulation figures, but I seem to remember that someone stated that it had the highest circulation of any motoring magazine recently.
From www.abc.org.uk : Total Average Net Circulation Per Issue first six months of 2001):
Max Power: 215,558
Top Gear: 168,086
Car: 117,654
Fast Car: 114,310
F1 Racing: 104,054
Auto Express: 94,088
Autocar: 70,056
Autosport: 61,025
Evo: 48,276
Motorsport News: 40,043
Car & Car Conversions: 25,045
All circulation minnows.I believe the highest circulation motor mag to be Motoring and Leisure, the magazine of the Civil Service Motor Association (CSMA). Currently ABC certified at 346,649. Unless anybody knows of a higher circulation magazine.
Thats got to be a good pub quiz question!
Thats got to be a good pub quiz question!
Very worrying indeed... however, there was a test done recently that I found even more staggeringly amazing:
5 x 18 year old drivers each had 4 pints of 5% beer
5 x 70 year old drivers sober.
They did a series of tests to do with reaction time and accuracy and the pissed 18 year olds came out best!!!
This is not a joke and it's something i find quite scary.
5 x 18 year old drivers each had 4 pints of 5% beer
5 x 70 year old drivers sober.
They did a series of tests to do with reaction time and accuracy and the pissed 18 year olds came out best!!!
This is not a joke and it's something i find quite scary.
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