High vis cameras?

[pbrettle]

All,

This link should work for the moment (probably not after a couple of days though):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1688000/1688711.stm

It seems that the government has agreed with people like the Chief Constable of Norfolk police and we will get high vis cameras and none of that - loads of signs and no cameras....

Maybe things are getting better for us motorists...?

Cheers,

Paul

[jaydee]

"The government has already announced that speed cameras can only be put in locations with a history of crashes."
Unfortunately they're using accident stats. back to the time of the Romans.
'Maybe things are getting better for us motorists...?'
lol .

[scudderfish]

But does this mean they are going to paint and shift existing cameras, or does it only apply to new ones?

Regards,
Dave

[mel]

I take it when they put in road works and chuck up a couple of 50 mph money grabbers this doesn't count then !! How can a new set of road works be shown to be an "accident black spot" or do they cop out by saying "a lot of accidents happen in road works" tossers

[mr_tony]

The new I heard this morning on R4 suggested that _all_cameras would now be required to be bright yellow, to stop accidents due to emergency braking...

[Marv]

What was that crap I read about being 'allowed to be left grey in areas of beauty' or something! What a load of shit! if what they say is true and the cameras are in accident blackspots then I think road safety and peoples lives should come slightly above the visual impact of the camera.. I can see the big revenue earning gatso will mysteriously be in 'areas of beauty'. Why cant they just stop fecking about!

ALL cameras are 'supposed' to be there for reducing accident rates so surely ALL cameras should be more visible. Why dont they cover the back of the camera with the same 3M stuff that traffic cars get covered in then more people would see them earlier than some dodgy dull orange paint that has faded in 2 months

Marv

[pbrettle]

I think that the Chief Constable of Norfolk hit the nail right on the head with his comments about alienating the driving public. Hiding cameras and placing them in "revenue" areas just makes the Police look like money grabbing gits.

The Police are there to try and reduce accidents and to prosecute those that break the law - not be seen as a revenue generating business unit of the treasury. At least a couple of Police units recognise this and that they are risking more by not making cameras be a little more visible. If they loose the trust and respect of the public then they loose the battle - that is the choice.....

Having had a long conversation with a Traffic Police officer there are definately gavanised views on this - he in particular said "sod you, if you speed then expect to get caught. Dont even have the signs warning you". Then again, he is the person that clears up after a motorbike accident at 100MPH...

Cheers,

Paul

[mel]

quote:
What was that crap I read about being 'allowed to be left grey in areas of beauty' or something! What a load of shit! if what they say is true and the cameras are in accident blackspots then I think road safety and peoples lives should come slightly above the visual impact of the camera.. I can see the big revenue earning gatso will mysteriously be in 'areas of beauty'. Why cant they just stop fecking about!

Just this morning I drove round the M25 I looked at the GATSO's hidden in the overhead gantrys and thought "God a 4 lane motorway is a beautiful place I do hope the don't spoil my view of the other 50 thousand cars around me by painting those cameras a bright colour"

Bollox

[Jason F]

The news at lunchtime seemed to think that only New cameras will need to be painted Yellow/Orange whatever.. And that is only in about half of the areas in the country as well (Not all police forces are following these 'guidelines')
There was a nice plod saying we don`t want to trap people we want them to slow down. Then there was one who seemed to be of the opinion that 'In all areas where a Speed Camera had been placed, accident rates had decreased' - Would love to know where he got his stats for that statement...

BBC news then showed a nice 'Safety' Camera in Bristol that is completely hidden by a road sign.....

[pbrettle]

And they have the guts to say that it isnt a money maker? I know of at least 4 cameras that are hidden from view (deliberately) - trust the Police? Not when they resort to such tactics.

But the nice man from the Police said that cameras are a life saver. And that accidents are down, and that ikkle Jonny is alive and well because of a speed camera - and precisely how many police officers have been caught by speed cameras.... might be interesting to find out... Oh, sorry keep forgetting, they just claim that they dont know who was driving and avoid a prosecution..... loopholes, dont you just love em.

Cheers,

[jatrichardson]

err... Hands up the first person who is going to go to court to claim that the camera was the wrong colour, so he/she wasn't speeding....

Might be worth a punt?? Trouble is: I never get caught Famous last words, hoist with ones own petard etc....