Whats a hardtop like?
Whats a hardtop like?
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Andy T

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468 posts

259 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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Thinking about getting me a hardtop for the less inclement months i.e. most of the time! I'm thinking about getting a carbon fibre one from eliseparts as it's cheaper than the Lotus one, lighter and it looks the danglies.

What are hardtops like to live with though? I've heard that they can be noisy, is this right? Do you hear more road noise or less? Do they squeak? Do they leak? One of the main reasons to get one is because my S2 111S leaks in heavy rain, I'd want any hardtop not to leak at all.

Any info would be appreciated


Cheers

A

NathanE

539 posts

233 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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I'm pretty sure wind noise would be less than the soft top - not 100% though

Edited by NathanE on Friday 7th September 14:53

porteouz

123 posts

235 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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Ive got one on my S1 and it doesnt leak at all. Unless u blast the windows with a power washer. As for noise it is quite a bit louder than the softtop. All the rattles and bumps seem to get amplified but i still couldnt live without it. Plus as you said it looks the dogs danglers, Car looks much better with it on compared to the softtop

rfoster

1,482 posts

285 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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They squeak - they leak at the same points as the soft tops do if the windows aren't aligned properly and the cabin noise is significantly increased over the soft top. I have a hard top and hardly ever us it.

Andy T

Original Poster:

468 posts

259 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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porteouz said:
Ive got one on my S1 and it doesnt leak at all. Unless u blast the windows with a power washer. As for noise it is quite a bit louder than the softtop. All the rattles and bumps seem to get amplified but i still couldnt live without it. Plus as you said it looks the dogs danglers, Car looks much better with it on compared to the softtop
Does your hardtop have any headlining inside? I'm thinking about getting one thts lined. Do you think that would make it a bit quieter?

patmahe

5,924 posts

235 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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I bought a genuine Lotus hardtop used for my s2 from ebay the lining makes a difference and reduces windnoise but not as much as you'd think, a lot more waterproof too. Still it'll save the softop from cracking up over the winter, all in all a worhwhile investment.

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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In my experience hardtops make the cabin noisier, even with the headlining. I guess you could pad it out a bit more with some dynamat or something which might help though?

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

258 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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The can make the exhaust boomier but they get rid of wind noise so motorways are quieter overall. And yes, they do squeak like mad.

The biggest problem with rain is that they don't have any guttering (the soft top has a seam that works until it's soaked), so open the door and all the water runs onto the sills...

Ron07

14 posts

230 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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My hardtop doesn't leak at all and i've not noticed it any louder in the cabin and no rattles. Looks awesom aswell IMO.

Ron

Mish

82 posts

258 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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MY S1 hardtop is one of the best buy's I have made for the car... it doesn't leak, the wind noise is much better, it looks cool and I don't find it any noisier!!

The only irritating thing is on a day like today when I want to drive home from work with the roof off and I can't!!

noodleman

827 posts

244 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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Mine doesn't leak but, because there are no rain channels, you can't have the windows open (even a little buit) if it's raining.

hueandcry71

1,389 posts

233 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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Andy T said:
Thinking about getting me a hardtop for the less inclement months i.e. most of the time! I'm thinking about getting a carbon fibre one from eliseparts as it's cheaper than the Lotus one, lighter and it looks the danglies.

What are hardtops like to live with though? I've heard that they can be noisy, is this right? Do you hear more road noise or less? Do they squeak? Do they leak? One of the main reasons to get one is because my S2 111S leaks in heavy rain, I'd want any hardtop not to leak at all.

Any info would be appreciated


Cheers

A
I have a near brand new soft top for sale if you want to buy it.

Andy T

Original Poster:

468 posts

259 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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hueandcry71 said:
Andy T said:
Thinking about getting me a hardtop for the less inclement months i.e. most of the time! I'm thinking about getting a carbon fibre one from eliseparts as it's cheaper than the Lotus one, lighter and it looks the danglies.

What are hardtops like to live with though? I've heard that they can be noisy, is this right? Do you hear more road noise or less? Do they squeak? Do they leak? One of the main reasons to get one is because my S2 111S leaks in heavy rain, I'd want any hardtop not to leak at all.

Any info would be appreciated


Cheers

A
I have a near brand new soft top for sale if you want to buy it.
Thanks but I've got a soft top already.

A

porteouz

123 posts

235 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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mines doesnt squeek, or leak. It has the linin yes but i dont think it would make any difference without it.

cyberface

12,214 posts

288 months

Saturday 8th September 2007
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Not sure about S2, but I had a B&C unlined carbon fibre hardtop for my old S1 Elise and along with their silly cone filter induction system, it was just about undrivable more than 10 miles without earplugs. Yes, that bad.

I have a hardtop on my VXT, which has a flock / fleece type lining, and not only does it stiffen up the structure (no scuttle shake) but it also reduces noise considerably at medium-high speeds. Passenger conversation and music (standard 2-speaker stereo, no rude-boy ICE installs on my cars) is comfortable up to 80 mph, and you can have a loud conversation up to 120 - above that it starts turning into concentration-time. Aero is improved so fuel consumption is better on long high-speed runs.

If the S2 hardtop is like the VX hardtop then it's a damn worthy addition. I don't like soft top cars and bought the car for handling and fun rather than the pose value of having the roof off - the additional benefits are security, less chance of annoyingly expensive vandalism, and depending on the style of the roof, can make the car look a better shape.

I'd advise against unlined carbon roofs though, you are going to get resonance city, especially with a loud airbox or zorst.

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

261 months

Saturday 8th September 2007
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If mine hadn't dome with a hradtop I don't think I'd have bothered buying one. The car is noisier with it on. It won't make the body tighter at all. It's expensive.
My S1 soft-top doesn't leak at all, tight as a drum if you look after it. The hardtop does look great though.

You pays your money and all that. They pretty much keep their value though.....

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Saturday 8th September 2007
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Hollywood Wheels said:
If mine hadn't dome with a hardtop I have bought a StreetKa
/snigger

RTH

1,059 posts

243 months

Saturday 8th September 2007
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Any experiences with the gull wing hardtops ?

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

261 months

Saturday 8th September 2007
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S Works said:
Hollywood Wheels said:
If mine hadn't dome with a hardtop I have bought a StreetKa
/snigger
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RTH

1,059 posts

243 months