600's - size and weight comparisons.
Discussion
Guy's,
In my renewed interest to get a bike licence I've started looking at insurance cost, kit costs etc so that I can work out a relative budget.
But what I haven't really looked at is the differences between several bikes.
Is there anywhere that you can do a comparison of statistics for several bike? i.e. something that lists physical dimentions and weights etc?
Like weight difference between CBR600, Triumph TT600 and R6 etc
Have been looking at a few 600's on biketrader etc but don't really know that mush about them.
Cheers
Chris
Oh yeah - being 'short in leg' I'll be looking for a low'ish bike!
Edited for carp smelling......
In my renewed interest to get a bike licence I've started looking at insurance cost, kit costs etc so that I can work out a relative budget.
But what I haven't really looked at is the differences between several bikes.
Is there anywhere that you can do a comparison of statistics for several bike? i.e. something that lists physical dimentions and weights etc?
Like weight difference between CBR600, Triumph TT600 and R6 etc
Have been looking at a few 600's on biketrader etc but don't really know that mush about them.
Cheers
Chris
Oh yeah - being 'short in leg' I'll be looking for a low'ish bike!
Edited for carp smelling......
Edited by Woody on Friday 7th September 16:02
trumpet600 said:
Chilli said:
Come on someone.....Help the man out.
I would but I don't really know what I'm talking about.
I admire people who know their limitations I would but I don't really know what I'm talking about.
right, off for a hoon with the traffic.
Good weekend all.
Chilli said:
trumpet600 said:
Chilli said:
Come on someone.....Help the man out.
I would but I don't really know what I'm talking about.
I admire people who know their limitations I would but I don't really know what I'm talking about.
right, off for a hoon with the traffic.
Good weekend all.
Woody said:
Guy's,
In my renewed interest to get a bike licence I've started looking at insurance cost, kit costs etc so that I can work out a relative budget.
But what I haven't really looked at is the differences between several bikes.
Is there anywhere that you can do a comparison of statistics for several bike? i.e. something that lists physical dimentions and weights etc?
Like weight difference between CBR600, Triumph TT600 and R6 etc
Have been looking at a few 600's on biketrader etc but don't really know that mush about them.
Cheers
Chris
Oh yeah - being 'short in leg' I'll be looking for a low'ish bike!
Edited for carp smelling......
I don’t know of any sites that do such lists but I expect that’s because they would be pretty pointless. The weight difference between the likes of an R6, a TT and a CBR600 will be minimal and comparisons would be meaningless for all bar racing. Much more important is how the bike ‘feels’ to you and that can only be judged by ... er .... you!In my renewed interest to get a bike licence I've started looking at insurance cost, kit costs etc so that I can work out a relative budget.
But what I haven't really looked at is the differences between several bikes.
Is there anywhere that you can do a comparison of statistics for several bike? i.e. something that lists physical dimentions and weights etc?
Like weight difference between CBR600, Triumph TT600 and R6 etc
Have been looking at a few 600's on biketrader etc but don't really know that mush about them.
Cheers
Chris
Oh yeah - being 'short in leg' I'll be looking for a low'ish bike!
Edited for carp smelling......
Edited by Woody on Friday 7th September 16:02
Try the bikes you’re interested in and find the one that suits you best, regardless of a couple of kg’s or a few cc’s.
Cheers guy's.
Will start to have a look at a few bikes.
Thought there may have been somewhere that I could look at seat heights etc.
As I've previously mentioned my legs are a bit short!
Another question - (assuming I pass and want a bike!) would a 600 be ok for a start or should I be looking at a 400 or even a 250?
A mate took me out on his (then new) CBR600F a few years back and 2-up that was pretty mental!
Chris
Will start to have a look at a few bikes.
Thought there may have been somewhere that I could look at seat heights etc.
As I've previously mentioned my legs are a bit short!
Another question - (assuming I pass and want a bike!) would a 600 be ok for a start or should I be looking at a 400 or even a 250?
A mate took me out on his (then new) CBR600F a few years back and 2-up that was pretty mental!
Chris
"Parkers" price guides have weight and insurance group for bikes http://www.parkers.co.uk/motorbikes/used-prices/
mcn also has a review section on their site
if you're willing to consider 400's then there are the zxr400, cbr 400 babyblade and vfr nc30/rvf 400 nc35 (there are a few others)
Personally I'd say the vfr and rvf are the best choice (in my biased opinion- I have an rvf) absolutely superb first bike, enough power to make you smile, 60-63 bhp, ss 1/4mile in 12.5 sec 110mph with factory restrictor fitted 140mph without. Nice small bike, low seat, but being race replicas they have fantastic handling abilities, can out do larger bikes through the twisty's, although within a few kilo's of an r6 and possibly not much price difference (testament to the bike- in part atleast)
Much more forgiving than a 600 as a first bike, and alows progression to a 600 when you feel the need for a little more speed
mcn also has a review section on their site
if you're willing to consider 400's then there are the zxr400, cbr 400 babyblade and vfr nc30/rvf 400 nc35 (there are a few others)
Personally I'd say the vfr and rvf are the best choice (in my biased opinion- I have an rvf) absolutely superb first bike, enough power to make you smile, 60-63 bhp, ss 1/4mile in 12.5 sec 110mph with factory restrictor fitted 140mph without. Nice small bike, low seat, but being race replicas they have fantastic handling abilities, can out do larger bikes through the twisty's, although within a few kilo's of an r6 and possibly not much price difference (testament to the bike- in part atleast)
Much more forgiving than a 600 as a first bike, and alows progression to a 600 when you feel the need for a little more speed
www.bikez.com
it lists seat heights etc for almost any bike you can think of. very handy for comparing bikes. when it works, i keep getting database failures looking things up.
it lists seat heights etc for almost any bike you can think of. very handy for comparing bikes. when it works, i keep getting database failures looking things up.
Woody said:
Cheers guy's.
Will start to have a look at a few bikes.
Thought there may have been somewhere that I could look at seat heights etc.
As I've previously mentioned my legs are a bit short!
Another question - (assuming I pass and want a bike!) would a 600 be ok for a start or should I be looking at a 400 or even a 250?
A mate took me out on his (then new) CBR600F a few years back and 2-up that was pretty mental!
Chris
While the seat height is important, the centre of gravity of the bike will also have a big impact on how manageable the bike is, as will the width of the bike and the location of the pegs and gear/brake levers. Again, all of these are best tested by actually trying a few bikes to see what fits you.Will start to have a look at a few bikes.
Thought there may have been somewhere that I could look at seat heights etc.
As I've previously mentioned my legs are a bit short!
Another question - (assuming I pass and want a bike!) would a 600 be ok for a start or should I be looking at a 400 or even a 250?
A mate took me out on his (then new) CBR600F a few years back and 2-up that was pretty mental!
Chris
Any bike is a good first bike if it is the bike you want and it suits your riding style. Do not buy a bike to ‘slow you down’. That is dangerous. You are in control of the bike and the throttle goes both ways. Often, larger engines are easier to get on with as they offer more torque and allow you to concentrate more on the road rather than concentrating on being at exactly the right revs to keep things moving. By the way, do expect to drop your first bike at some point (probably more than once).
I would recommened a Fazer for a first bike. having one the only thing I find is how low the seat is so idea for shorter peps. it's bloody fast for a newbie and a good staring point. mine is the older fazer but on a 03 plate and will be getting sold from Nov due to getting a triple or gix750 or superduke.
insurence is good for a 30 yo with no bike ncb andis cheap to run
I could not recommened a fazer higly enought to a newbie. great fun, fast and cheap
insurence is good for a 30 yo with no bike ncb andis cheap to run
I could not recommened a fazer higly enought to a newbie. great fun, fast and cheap
As has been said, try as many as possible.
My first big bike was a Hornet. basically you get the acceleration of a CBR, with less expensive plastic braking if you lay it down.
Also weight differences will have little effect on real world riding.
The 400's, whilst fantastic bikes, tend to be expensive for what you get. May as well just get a 600 and ride it slower.
My first big bike was a Hornet. basically you get the acceleration of a CBR, with less expensive plastic braking if you lay it down.
Also weight differences will have little effect on real world riding.
The 400's, whilst fantastic bikes, tend to be expensive for what you get. May as well just get a 600 and ride it slower.
Chilli said:
garyhun said:
Chilli in "PH'er refuses to post due to complete lack of knowledge" shocker !!!!!!! 
Edited by garyhun on Saturday 8th September 15:27
I once used T-Cut to get the flies off the front of the R6. ANy newbies on here....DON'T DO IT!Try 'What Bike' magazine, it has pics & descriptions of every popular bike, plus weight, insurance group, seat height etc. My first steed was a Honda CB500, and I found it an ideal starter bike - reliable, comfortable, cheap(ish) to insure, it keeps up with the traffic, & will overtake most of it if you're in the mood.
shot2bits said:
I think all modern 600's are superb machines though the CBR600RR appears to recieve the best reviews. Best bet is to have a sit / ride on a few.
Agreed. The first bike I had after I did my DAS course 2 yrs ago was an 03 CBR600RR. Some of my friends and family thought I was bonkers but I found it awesome and it easily soaked the many amaturish mistakes I made. I've only got a 32" inside leg and was able, at a push, to nearly get my feet flat on the floorGassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff