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Biker's Nemesis said:
I'll have to show T666AKY that.
Just before our trackday next week.
Thats cruel john, sorry for missing you last sunday as i did'nt get in till early sunday morning after having the car serviced at middlewich and that guy can work late! but at least i got a clear run home,,,,,ahem.Just before our trackday next week.
will catch up with you tomorrow to give the new R1 a good looking at.
twizellb said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
I'll have to show T666AKY that.
Just before our trackday next week.
Thats cruel john, sorry for missing you last sunday as i did'nt get in till early sunday morning after having the car serviced at middlewich and that guy can work late! but at least i got a clear run home,,,,,ahem.Just before our trackday next week.
will catch up with you tomorrow to give the new R1 a good looking at.
Biker's Nemesis said:
twizellb said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
I'll have to show T666AKY that.
Just before our trackday next week.
Thats cruel john, sorry for missing you last sunday as i did'nt get in till early sunday morning after having the car serviced at middlewich and that guy can work late! but at least i got a clear run home,,,,,ahem.Just before our trackday next week.
will catch up with you tomorrow to give the new R1 a good looking at.
cardigankid said:
My ex wife just watched a biker die in a crash,he had small children himself as it turns out. Do you think he feels his blast was worth it? Do you really feel relaxed about encouraging kids take up this idiotic pastime?
What with your friend seeing someone die on a bike people you know aren't having much luck are they? Or is this another attempt to grind your axe? cardigankid said:
My ex wife just watched a biker die in a crash,he had small children himself as it turns out. Do you think he feels his blast was worth it? Do you really feel relaxed about encouraging kids take up this idiotic pastime?
You've made your views and statement over herehttp://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
You've had a 12 page debate over it ,move along now.
Edited by podman on Friday 7th September 20:12
dern said:
cardigankid said:
My ex wife just watched a biker die in a crash,he had small children himself as it turns out. Do you think he feels his blast was worth it? Do you really feel relaxed about encouraging kids take up this idiotic pastime?
What with your friend seeing someone die on a bike people you know aren't having much luck are they? Or is this another attempt to grind your axe? As you say, I started a pretty lengthy thread on a car oriented zone, and I won't say another uninvited word, but I thought I would actually raise it with those who are actual bikers. What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
Edited by cardigankid on Friday 7th September 20:35
cardigankid said:
dern said:
cardigankid said:
My ex wife just watched a biker die in a crash,he had small children himself as it turns out. Do you think he feels his blast was worth it? Do you really feel relaxed about encouraging kids take up this idiotic pastime?
What with your friend seeing someone die on a bike people you know aren't having much luck are they? Or is this another attempt to grind your axe? As you say, I started a pretty lengthy thread on a car oriented zone, and I won't say another uninvited word, but I thought I would actually raise it with those who are actual bikers. What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
Edited by cardigankid on Friday 7th September 20:35
If you knew someone who died in a plane crash would you be on flying forums saying they were nuts?
If you knew someone who died in a train crash would you try and persuade people to stop traveling by train?
I am very sorry for all those associated with the accident your ex saw but everything in life has risks and 100% of people alive today WILL die. While none of us especially wants to hasten the eventual end, I for one don’t want to ‘check out’ having missed out on any fun in life because, if we're honest, almost all the things in life that are fun are the things that carry the risks.
I definitely don’t want some ‘soap box preacher’ whose experience of motorcycling is that he knows someone who saw someone die while undertaking this past time telling me I should not do it. I, like almost all the other members of this forum, am a grown up adult who is easily able to make my own balanced decisions!
Edited by black-k1 on Friday 7th September 23:06
cardigankid said:
What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
Do me a favour please and think about going out to your nearest city centre and ask all the junkies, muggers, murders, thugs & rapists why they do it and is it really justified.I'm sure you, like many of us have seen injustice, accidents, suffering and loss, but please keep a grip of reality and take a look at the 'bigger picture' of what's right and wronga about people and humanity in general, before you come on here and put this kind of mis-guided and naive question to people you have no understanding or knowledge of.
I love my bike and cars and love going fast. I go on track days and go karting to get my serious kicks and I also take my son, so he understands the difference between 'safe & appropriate speed' and 'stupidity and ingorance'.
With repesct, I'm not trying to patronise you. Please return the compliment.
If you would like to have a serious discussion, please do. I agree with a lot of what you are saying. But would it not be more honest, particularly to your next of kin, to tell them what you are going to do, and do it on a race track? I think that it comes down to what you think that it is fair and reasonable to do on public roads. And I think the fact that they are public roads is kind of concealing what it is that you are doing.
cardigankid said:
dern said:
cardigankid said:
My ex wife just watched a biker die in a crash,he had small children himself as it turns out. Do you think he feels his blast was worth it? Do you really feel relaxed about encouraging kids take up this idiotic pastime?
What with your friend seeing someone die on a bike people you know aren't having much luck are they? Or is this another attempt to grind your axe? As you say, I started a pretty lengthy thread on a car oriented zone, and I won't say another uninvited word, but I thought I would actually raise it with those who are actual bikers. What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
Edited by cardigankid on Friday 7th September 20:35
ditto said:
A friend of mine died in the tsunami 2004 while we were out snorkelling along with thousands more, I was lucky I was saved but I don’t around telling people they have a screw loose when they are swimming in the sea, I live my life to the full now, maybe you should try doing the same and butt out on other peoples enjoyment, just because I ride a bike I have a screw loose
I was over there at the time but fortunately for me I was in the Gulf of Thailand (other side of the mainland)Edited by rsv gone! on Friday 7th September 23:03
cardigankid said:
Look, I'm not a biker, and I will never understand you guys, but I'm a reasonable person. I do honestly think that you have all got a screw loose. This is a genuinely held belief. I think that your lives are of value to humanity and I don't like to see them wasted. This poor guys widow has now got a young family to bring up, wondering what their dad even looked like, for why. Because he wanted a blast on his bike. Jesus Christ. Even more than sports car people, you seem to go out on public roads to test the limits. You seem to me to relish risking your lives, rather in the manner of wartime fighter pilots, and you seem to feel good about having done it.
As you say, I started a pretty lengthy thread on a car oriented zone, and I won't say another uninvited word, but I thought I would actually raise it with those who are actual bikers. What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
As you say, I started a pretty lengthy thread on a car oriented zone, and I won't say another uninvited word, but I thought I would actually raise it with those who are actual bikers. What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
oggs said:
cardigankid said:
Look, I'm not a biker, and I will never understand you guys, but I'm a reasonable person. I do honestly think that you have all got a screw loose. This is a genuinely held belief. I think that your lives are of value to humanity and I don't like to see them wasted. This poor guys widow has now got a young family to bring up, wondering what their dad even looked like, for why. Because he wanted a blast on his bike. Jesus Christ. Even more than sports car people, you seem to go out on public roads to test the limits. You seem to me to relish risking your lives, rather in the manner of wartime fighter pilots, and you seem to feel good about having done it.
As you say, I started a pretty lengthy thread on a car oriented zone, and I won't say another uninvited word, but I thought I would actually raise it with those who are actual bikers. What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
As you say, I started a pretty lengthy thread on a car oriented zone, and I won't say another uninvited word, but I thought I would actually raise it with those who are actual bikers. What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
Sorry cardigan, but give it up, you are a tool
cardigankid said:
If you would like to have a serious discussion, please do. I agree with a lot of what you are saying. But would it not be more honest, particularly to your next of kin, to tell them what you are going to do, and do it on a race track? I think that it comes down to what you think that it is fair and reasonable to do on public roads. And I think the fact that they are public roads is kind of concealing what it is that you are doing.
I don’t understand what you think you have said that could be part of a ‘serious discussion’. As I read your postings you are either assuming that all motorcyclist on the public roads ride in a way that is a serious danger to them selves and others or that the act if riding a motorcycle on the road is itself extremely dangerous. Both of these stand points are nothing more than irrational and emotional prejudices that have little basis in fact and which could easily be considered as extremely insulting by a number of members of this forum and motorcyclists in general.While I know I am a long way from perfect, I for one take extreme pride in my safety record while riding a motorcycle on the road. I always try to ride in a way that shows consideration for other road users and also ensures my personal safety. That, however, does not mean that I haven’t had fun and that I haven’t undertaken maneuvers that may appear to be dangerous to other road users unfamiliar with the performance and capabilities of a motorcycle. I am completely honest with all of my family regarding my style of riding and would happily offer a pillion ride to any of them. (Many of them have already had a pillion ride).
If you wish to have a discussion regarding aspects of safety in motorcycling, then I am more than happy to discuss these but so far I have read nothing other than your apparent irrational fears.
cardigankid said:
dern said:
cardigankid said:
My ex wife just watched a biker die in a crash,he had small children himself as it turns out. Do you think he feels his blast was worth it? Do you really feel relaxed about encouraging kids take up this idiotic pastime?
What with your friend seeing someone die on a bike people you know aren't having much luck are they? Or is this another attempt to grind your axe? As you say, I started a pretty lengthy thread on a car oriented zone, and I won't say another uninvited word, but I thought I would actually raise it with those who are actual bikers. What are you getting from this, and do you honestly think its justified?
Edited by cardigankid on Friday 7th September 20:35
You seem to have had a rough ride on this thread for what seems to be a straight forward question, some folks love adrenaline others prefer life a little safer, either ways cool, whatever rocks ya boat!!
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