Eventual death of TVR......
Discussion
Fortunately it's not now. Ok, Mr S has had a good go however, there's always rumours floating around about the possibility of production restarting somewhere some-when.
This is not the big problem though....
Eventually, this whole Global Warming, CO-deux malarkey is going to be the final nail in the coffin as far as I can see.
Unless it can pass under the "we're a low volume manufacturer" banner, TVR's collective CO2 output is going to force it off the road or back to the days of turbo charging. So no more, strung out straight sixes or lumbering V8's. Even then it's going to need some massive "small cars" behind it to reduce is overall CO2 output.
How would you as a TVR owner or prospective purchaser feel then? Is Naturally Aspirated the only route for TVR? Would you be peeved if NS put a Turbo in the Tuscan 2 and dropped it from a 6 to a 4 cylinder with just 2.5l output? What about a hybrid TVR???? (Arrrrgggghhhh did I just say that out loud???)
This is not the big problem though....
Eventually, this whole Global Warming, CO-deux malarkey is going to be the final nail in the coffin as far as I can see.
Unless it can pass under the "we're a low volume manufacturer" banner, TVR's collective CO2 output is going to force it off the road or back to the days of turbo charging. So no more, strung out straight sixes or lumbering V8's. Even then it's going to need some massive "small cars" behind it to reduce is overall CO2 output.
How would you as a TVR owner or prospective purchaser feel then? Is Naturally Aspirated the only route for TVR? Would you be peeved if NS put a Turbo in the Tuscan 2 and dropped it from a 6 to a 4 cylinder with just 2.5l output? What about a hybrid TVR???? (Arrrrgggghhhh did I just say that out loud???)
frazer guest said:
Well, after the 
ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.
And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
Yes I like that. ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
SEN 18 said:
frazer guest said:
Well, after the ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.
And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
Yes I like that. ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
frazer guest said:
Well, after the ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.
And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
Brilliant! ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
frazer guest said:
Well, after the ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.
And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
You should stand for parliament - the Non PC Party (btw that was a good short rant!) 
frazer guest said:
I would love the chance to run this country and to bring it kicking and screaming back into line.I hate the idea of a benifit culture. I hate the idea of billions of £££'s being wasted on this war in Iraq and the massive waste in the public sector. I hate the fact that half my teeth are rotten and I still cant see a bloody dentist. I hate the fact that people can turn up on the back of a loory and straight away get a house and benifits when they have contributed nothing to this country. I hate the fact that victims of crime get offered so little support, whilts the perps get off almost scott free. I hate all this nonsense and crap we are fed about "Climate Change", when really it is nothing more than an excuse to raise revinue. I hate the fact that when Gordon Brown was Chanceller he spunked hundreds of millions of pounds away that wasnt even his, (lets just call it theft), when it was really taxpayers money. I hate the attitude that to try and strive, and work hard to be succesfull in this country is becoming something to be ashamed about.
Man, I would just love the opportunity to bring this country kicking and screaming back to its once great level.
Edited by kevin63 on Sunday 9th September 20:20
frazer guest said:
Keithyboy said:
frazer guest said:
Well, after the ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.
And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
You should stand for parliament - the Non PC Party (btw that was a good short rant!) I would love the chance to run this country and to bring it kicking and screaming back into line.I hate the idea of a benifit culture. I hate the idea of billions of £££'s being wasted on this war in Iraq and the massive waste in the public sector. I hate the fact that half my teeth are rotten and I still cant see a bloody dentist. I hate the fact that people can turn up on the back of a loory and straight away get a house and benifits when they have contributed nothing to this country. I hate the fact that victims of crime get offered so little support, whilts the perps get off almost scott free. I hate all this nonsense and crap we are fed about "Climate Change", when really it is nothing more than an excuse to raise revinue. I hate the fact that when Gordon Brown was Chanceller he spunked hundreds of millions of pounds away that wasnt even his, (lets just call it theft), when it was really taxpayers money. I hate the attitude that to try and strive, and work hard to be succesfull in this country is becoming something to be ashamed about.
Man, I would just love the opportunity to bring this country kicking and screaming back to its once great level.
Let me think,,, fast car production progressively legislated against... equals no more new fast cars. Assuming such legislation isn't back dated (usually the case). Lets all have a guess at what happens to the value of the fast cars still on the road.. = SKY HIGH.. personnally I would prefer not to have such legislation appear but it is probably a matter of time so hold on to your vehicles.. infact buy another! Insurance premiums will go up though!
And yes, there is always a way round the rules so someone will work out how go fast whatever legislation turns up..
My guess is they will go for bikes first, if that happens the writing is on the wall.
cheers
Mr Hypothetical
And yes, there is always a way round the rules so someone will work out how go fast whatever legislation turns up..
My guess is they will go for bikes first, if that happens the writing is on the wall.
cheers
Mr Hypothetical
frazer guest said:
Keithyboy said:
frazer guest said:
Well, after the ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.
And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
You should stand for parliament - the Non PC Party (btw that was a good short rant!) I would love the chance to run this country and to bring it kicking and screaming back into line.I hate the idea of a benifit culture. I hate the idea of billions of £££'s being wasted on this war in Iraq and the massive waste in the public sector. I hate the fact that half my teeth are rotten and I still cant see a bloody dentist. I hate the fact that people can turn up on the back of a loory and straight away get a house and benifits when they have contributed nothing to this country. I hate the fact that victims of crime get offered so little support, whilts the perps get off almost scott free. I hate all this nonsense and crap we are fed about "Climate Change", when really it is nothing more than an excuse to raise revinue. I hate the fact that when Gordon Brown was Chanceller he spunked hundreds of millions of pounds away that wasnt even his, (lets just call it theft), when it was really taxpayers money. I hate the attitude that to try and strive, and work hard to be succesfull in this country is becoming something to be ashamed about.
Man, I would just love the opportunity to bring this country kicking and screaming back to its once great level.
How about this the wifes taking delivery of a VW R32 Mk5 next week,she has just had her tax renewal for her outgoing MK4 R32 cost £205.
To tax her new VW R32 its another £95 thats £300 same engine same pollution anybody know Guy Fawkes tel no!!!
Edited by SEN 18 on Sunday 9th September 21:16
frazer guest said:
Keithyboy said:
frazer guest said:
Well, after the ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.
And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
ing, bastard, shitty, ing, tting, total and utter wet wankfest of a summer we have had, (Goodwood wet, again, and my holiday in Cornwall, wet), all I can say is bring on the global warming. I'm sick to bloody death of these shitty wet, crap miserable excuses for summer that we keep having.And so to compansate, I'm doing about 1100 miles per month in the TVR, and as much of it as sideways as possable.
Climate change? Shove it up your arse.
Sorry.
You should stand for parliament - the Non PC Party (btw that was a good short rant!) I would love the chance to run this country and to bring it kicking and screaming back into line.I hate the idea of a benifit culture. I hate the idea of billions of £££'s being wasted on this war in Iraq and the massive waste in the public sector. I hate the fact that half my teeth are rotten and I still cant see a bloody dentist. I hate the fact that people can turn up on the back of a loory and straight away get a house and benifits when they have contributed nothing to this country. I hate the fact that victims of crime get offered so little support, whilts the perps get off almost scott free. I hate all this nonsense and crap we are fed about "Climate Change", when really it is nothing more than an excuse to raise revinue. I hate the fact that when Gordon Brown was Chanceller he spunked hundreds of millions of pounds away that wasnt even his, (lets just call it theft), when it was really taxpayers money. I hate the attitude that to try and strive, and work hard to be succesfull in this country is becoming something to be ashamed about.
Man, I would just love the opportunity to bring this country kicking and screaming back to its once great level.
Given that the most potent greenhouse gas on the planet is water vapour (responsible for 90-95% of the effect) I wonder what the Government are going to do when they have forced internal combustion engines off the road in favour of fuel cells that produce nothing but water vapour?
Ahh yes, that's it, tax cars on the basis of their emissions of water vapour!!!!!
It's all a load of B@ll@x - be proud of your gas guzzlers while you can and spread the word at every dinner party you go to.
Ahh yes, that's it, tax cars on the basis of their emissions of water vapour!!!!!
It's all a load of B@ll@x - be proud of your gas guzzlers while you can and spread the word at every dinner party you go to.
TravelsVeryRapid said:
If you don't owe them any money and you have proof don't pay them. If they are threatening you with the magistrates court tell them to proceed and that you will be making a counter claim for your time and expenses and you will here no more. They are just trying it on.
Alternatively. Get some dynamite with a short fuse and toss it through their front door that will sort them out..Gassing Station | General TVR Stuff & Gossip | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff