Dealing changing the 'agreed sale price'
Dealing changing the 'agreed sale price'
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Hobo

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6,654 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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I was due to sell the wife's boxster back to the local porsche dealership today, however, when I got there they suddenly reduced thier offer.

4 weeks ago we test drove the new cayenne as we need to change from a 2 seater due to a recent baby. The dealer gave us a p/x figure and also gave us a buy-back figure (all verbal) as we also mentioned we were looking at X5's.

We did not proceed with the purchase of the cayenne, however the car went in for its service the following week.

At the time we were given the buy back figure the mileage was 13,250. At the time of service the mileage was 13,445. The mileage now is 13,900.

There reason for the reduced offer today was that they were unaware of the condition of the vehicle stating stone chips & tyre wear the cause of the reduced offer.

My argument was that how much 'additional' damage/tyre wear can there be in 650 miles since they valued it. They would not however stick to thier word & the deal fell through.

I have since tried to contact the dealer principle who will not return my calls.

The problem I have is that I am picking up the X5 tomorrow & have already released the funds to them so cannot cancel it.
The X5 dealer isn't really interested in looking at the porsche on p/x as in he doesn't really want the car in stock & said he would only sell it back to the same porsche dealer anyway.

In summary its a right royal f@ck-up. Something I would expect of a back street garage not a porsche approved dealership.

Where do I go from here ? Any help appreciated.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

302 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Hobo said:
I was due to sell the wife's boxster back to the local porsche dealership today, however, when I got there they suddenly reduced thier offer.

4 weeks ago we test drove the new cayenne as we need to change from a 2 seater due to a recent baby. The dealer gave us a p/x figure and also gave us a buy-back figure (all verbal) as we also mentioned we were looking at X5's.

We did not proceed with the purchase of the cayenne, however the car went in for its service the following week.

At the time we were given the buy back figure the mileage was 13,250. At the time of service the mileage was 13,445. The mileage now is 13,900.

There reason for the reduced offer today was that they were unaware of the condition of the vehicle stating stone chips & tyre wear the cause of the reduced offer.

My argument was that how much 'additional' damage/tyre wear can there be in 650 miles since they valued it. They would not however stick to thier word & the deal fell through.

I have since tried to contact the dealer principle who will not return my calls.

The problem I have is that I am picking up the X5 tomorrow & have already released the funds to them so cannot cancel it.
The X5 dealer isn't really interested in looking at the porsche on p/x as in he doesn't really want the car in stock & said he would only sell it back to the same porsche dealer anyway.

In summary its a right royal f@ck-up. Something I would expect of a back street garage not a porsche approved dealership.

Where do I go from here ? Any help appreciated.
Ring 911virgin.

Tell the OPC to go fvck themselves.


Last time I was at an OPC there was a bloke in there having a screaming argument with the salesman. He'd gone to pick up his new car, and when he'd got there the salesman had told him the deal was off as the trade in had some new stonechips and a mark on a wheel, and they'd only give him a grand less than he'd been quoted. It was "write a cheque or you can't have your new car."

The bloke was a big fella, builder type. He eventually told the salesman to go fvck himself.


dazren

22,612 posts

292 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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I don't think you'll get anywhere. They've given you a figure and now you want to let them have the car 4 weeks later with 5% higher mileage?

Hobo

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6,654 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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No. I am not selling it back to them for the price agreed 4 weeks ago. It has come down slightly since then.

I spoke to them at the start of september & told them I wished to sell it back to them & they gave me a revised figure (£1000 less than previously), subject to the deal being down by an agreed date (today).

Hobo

Original Poster:

6,654 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Thier argument for wanting to bring it down another £1500 is that they were not aware of the state of the car, saying it has stone chips & worn tyres.

I'm saying, how much worse can it possibly be than 4 weeks ago, with only 700 miles being added ?

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

302 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Hobo said:
No. I am not selling it back to them for the price agreed 4 weeks ago. It has come down slightly since then.

I spoke to them at the start of september & told them I wished to sell it back to them & they gave me a revised figure (£1000 less than previously), subject to the deal being down by an agreed date (today).
Try on.

Call Porsche GB.

Then sell your car to Henry.

dazren

22,612 posts

292 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Ah. In that case just never deal with them again.

Edited by dazren on Monday 10th September 17:03

Hobo

Original Poster:

6,654 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Doesn't help with the fact that tomorrow I'll have one extra car than I want.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

302 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Hobo said:
Doesn't help with the fact that tomorrow I'll have one extra car than I want.
Henry will pay you the same as the OPC, if not more.

They're being cvnts.

Koln-RS

4,128 posts

243 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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A verbal offer, four weeks on, and it is only a cash transaction (ie you are not buying anything else from them), I don't think you'll get much joy.

However, as they were probably only offering the bottom line trade-in value, why not try a private sale. Someone might get a bargain.

What's the spec and other details?

Hobo

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6,654 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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But that I can't guarantee.

The simple fact is that we agreed a deal & they are now not sticking to it.

Yes, I can keep the car & sell privately, etc, however its just a pain in the arse & not something I wanted to do.

Why can't people just deliver what they promise ?

Would it be worth speaking to Porsche GB customer services ? If so, anyone have a number as I can't find it on thier website.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

302 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Hobo said:
But that I can't guarantee.

The simple fact is that we agreed a deal & they are now not sticking to it.

Yes, I can keep the car & sell privately, etc, however its just a pain in the arse & not something I wanted to do.

Why can't people just deliver what they promise ?

Would it be worth speaking to Porsche GB customer services ? If so, anyone have a number as I can't find it on thier website.
Why not just sell it to 911virgin. He'll give a better price than Porsche I reckon.


anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Sounds like they were trying to get you into the Cayenne by offering a slightly better deal. Probably lost interest in you when you went for the X5 instead. Sell privately, you'll get a better price for it anyway. They're just trying to make a fat profit on your Boxster.

BermyAndy

2,050 posts

249 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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SELL IT TO HENRY!!!!!

Deva Link

26,934 posts

276 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Hobo said:
No. I am not selling it back to them for the price agreed 4 weeks ago. It has come down slightly since then.

I spoke to them at the start of september & told them I wished to sell it back to them & they gave me a revised figure (£1000 less than previously), subject to the deal being down by an agreed date (today).
Was that an agreement, or an offer? Verbal agreements are egally binding.

If all else fails, take the lower amount (make sure you don;t sign anything waiving your rights, although that might not be binding anyway) then "sue" them using http://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk for the difference.

POORCARDEALER

8,670 posts

272 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Post full details of the car here or pm me and I will try and buy it from you. Easy.

IMI A

9,997 posts

232 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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yes let us known spec of of car. my mrs moght have it1?

Hobo

Original Poster:

6,654 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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Boxster S
55 plate
14000 miles
1 owner

Arctic Silver (£570 option)
Full black leather (included elsewhere)
19" carrera alloys (£1,018 option)
cd autochanger (£348 option)
sport chrono (£530 option)
porsche wheel centre set (£107 option)
centre console in exterior colour (£333 option)
wind deflector (£217 option)
Electrically adjustable seats (£2,700 option)
Park assist (£325 option)
Floor mats (£72 option)
Sports steering wheel (£432 option)
S/S door entry guards (£198 option)
Tracker

Think thats about it.



Koln-RS

4,128 posts

243 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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What, no heated seats on a Boxster?

(sharp intake of breath).......bandit

hoges11

1,011 posts

259 months

Monday 10th September 2007
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or try Ray Northway or Joel at RSJ, they usually make a fair offer and are good guys to deal with.