Turning left from the right hand lane - roundabout
Discussion
Ok experienced this yesterday, and at the same time realised I had experienced it before but did not understand what was going on at the time(thought numpty who didn’t understand lane control).
Driving up a slip road from a busy dual carriageway in left hand lane because I wanted to go left, other guy beats all the traffic and drives up beside me in the right hand lane – we both go left at the next opportunity.
In the interest of safety and not banging the car I let him go first, but not without a coffee advert moment and gnashing of teeth.
Has any one else experienced this 2@ type incident and what would happen If I called the Police and told them what had happened? - ie was he breaking the law?
Thoughts and views valued.
Cheers
Paul
Driving up a slip road from a busy dual carriageway in left hand lane because I wanted to go left, other guy beats all the traffic and drives up beside me in the right hand lane – we both go left at the next opportunity.
In the interest of safety and not banging the car I let him go first, but not without a coffee advert moment and gnashing of teeth.
Has any one else experienced this 2@ type incident and what would happen If I called the Police and told them what had happened? - ie was he breaking the law?
Thoughts and views valued.
Cheers
Paul
I see it every day where I live. There is a roundabout where the left-hand lane is straight ahead and the right hand lane is to turn right. But loads of people think that the left hand land is for turning right because there thick as shit? I can't think of one day where I haven't had to avoid so prick who can't bloody use the correct lane.
It depends whether or not the RH lane was signed as left/right turn or not.
There a a good few where I live and the amount of times you see a long queue on the inside lane for turning left, a queue in the RH lane for turning right and nothing in the middle lane signed for turning left, right and going straight.
My other method is as mentioned previously, using the RH lane and going around the roundabout.
There a a good few where I live and the amount of times you see a long queue on the inside lane for turning left, a queue in the RH lane for turning right and nothing in the middle lane signed for turning left, right and going straight.
My other method is as mentioned previously, using the RH lane and going around the roundabout.
Had the opposite yesterday - I was in the right hand lane approaching a roundabout to turn right. Matey in his Audi A3 came scooting up the inside, no indication, and then tried to turn right from the left hand lane, ditching me into the central reservation. And then had the temerity to give me inappropriate hand signals when I reminded him of my presence. A real Sidewinder moment...
It is feasible that some people can make genuine mistakes, possibly through ill-concentration. Others may not know the road and if the markings do not give sufficient warning then bouts of lane swapping or 'bad driving' might occur.
Obviously, somebody who hoons up the outside and cuts up traffic to turn left knows full well what they are doing.
Obviously, somebody who hoons up the outside and cuts up traffic to turn left knows full well what they are doing.
Indeed - in fact its mentioned in the Police Drivers Handbook...called 'making progress' or similar. If its 2 lanes to 2 lanes, and there aren't specific road markings as previously mentioned, then its exactly what you should do. It helps cut down congestion for obvious reasons.
Of course when there are markings its f***ing annoying when some arrogant tosspot pushes in!
Of course when there are markings its f***ing annoying when some arrogant tosspot pushes in!
I have no problems with people taking the right lane when the exit off the roundabout is "in line" ie appropriate and again 2 lanes, in fact I often use the outside lane in these circumstances.
The roundabout in question has 2 exits and a "go back the way you came" option. The first exit is tight left hander, the second exit is about half way round, and the go back the way you came is nearly a 360. the left turn is without doubt a 1 lane exit - and it is this arrogance that has p*ssed me right off with these 2@s.
Pleased to see that this sort of behaviour is not condoned btw :-)
Its right tho' You can't tell anyone otherwise there'd be a gatso there in no time!
B*gger
The roundabout in question has 2 exits and a "go back the way you came" option. The first exit is tight left hander, the second exit is about half way round, and the go back the way you came is nearly a 360. the left turn is without doubt a 1 lane exit - and it is this arrogance that has p*ssed me right off with these 2@s.
Pleased to see that this sort of behaviour is not condoned btw :-)
Its right tho' You can't tell anyone otherwise there'd be a gatso there in no time!
B*gger
I had a similar thing happen on the Clydeside expressway in Glasgow at the weekend. Traffic was light and I was behind a 2@ in a Cavalier doing 45 in a 50 in the outside lane.
Coming up to the roundabout at Yorkhill Quay (both lanes go straight on, or the left lane turns into the docks, there is no right turn except a u-turn back the way you came). Anyway, about 50 yds before the roundabout, the cav moves into the inside lane, and usually traffic just goes straight thru in both lanes. So I pull up almost alongside as we get to the roundabout (I am going straight thru too), but just hung slightly back, as I just get the feeling that the 2@ is going to do something unexpected - like turn right (back the way he came) from the inside lane. Which he did, signalling as he cut across my nose - which makes it allright, (sarcasm mode on) because as long as you signal you can go where you like . W@nker
Coming up to the roundabout at Yorkhill Quay (both lanes go straight on, or the left lane turns into the docks, there is no right turn except a u-turn back the way you came). Anyway, about 50 yds before the roundabout, the cav moves into the inside lane, and usually traffic just goes straight thru in both lanes. So I pull up almost alongside as we get to the roundabout (I am going straight thru too), but just hung slightly back, as I just get the feeling that the 2@ is going to do something unexpected - like turn right (back the way he came) from the inside lane. Which he did, signalling as he cut across my nose - which makes it allright, (sarcasm mode on) because as long as you signal you can go where you like . W@nker
Driving up a slip road from a busy dual carriageway in left hand lane because I wanted to go left, other guy beats all the traffic and drives up beside me in the right hand lane – we both go left at the next opportunity.
As madcop says, as long as both vehicles are aware of each other there is no problem, and certainly nothing illegal about it.
There is nothing illegal about being in the wrong lane, unless it's a bus lane
Yeah but it can be f**king dangerous and stupid!
How does numpty in wrong lane KNOW FOR SURE the intentions of the other driver or that the other driver definatly knows of aformentioned numpties intentions?
Roundabouts are normally clearly marked and if you get in the wrong lane, follow round and go again! Or accept your mistake and turn round later on. There should be no reason to get things wrong at a roundabout as long as you follow the WIN rule (What is it, Interrogate, Navigate).
I can honestly say that whenever I have been in the wrong lane of a roundabout I have either followed my lane and correct my mistake by turning round later OR followed the roundabout round again where appropriate and come off correctly. I am FAR from a perfect driver and make mistakes like anyone else but I deal with them in a way that DOES NOT affect other drivers.
Sorry to rant but people f**king around on roundabouts really pisses me off. The one at Junction 30 of the M5 leading onto the motorway is a good example. Lanes are very clearly marked yet I see near misses and prangs (usually around 3.30 / 4pm
) of the daewoo matiz and rangerover crew all taking kiddies home from school! They MUST have done this more than once in their lives so surly they must know the correct lanes by now!!!!!!
How does numpty in wrong lane KNOW FOR SURE the intentions of the other driver or that the other driver definatly knows of aformentioned numpties intentions?
Roundabouts are normally clearly marked and if you get in the wrong lane, follow round and go again! Or accept your mistake and turn round later on. There should be no reason to get things wrong at a roundabout as long as you follow the WIN rule (What is it, Interrogate, Navigate).
I can honestly say that whenever I have been in the wrong lane of a roundabout I have either followed my lane and correct my mistake by turning round later OR followed the roundabout round again where appropriate and come off correctly. I am FAR from a perfect driver and make mistakes like anyone else but I deal with them in a way that DOES NOT affect other drivers.
Sorry to rant but people f**king around on roundabouts really pisses me off. The one at Junction 30 of the M5 leading onto the motorway is a good example. Lanes are very clearly marked yet I see near misses and prangs (usually around 3.30 / 4pm
) of the daewoo matiz and rangerover crew all taking kiddies home from school! They MUST have done this more than once in their lives so surly they must know the correct lanes by now!!!!!!
Gh0st said:How does numpty in wrong lane KNOW FOR SURE the intentions of the other driver or that the other driver definatly knows of aformentioned numpties intentions?
Numpty is always right
I am always aware on roundabouts that cars on the left hand lanes turn right, and cars in the right hand lanes turn left, so I never overtake on a roundabout when I have reached my exit, as there is always some idiot in the wrong lane.
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