RE: Thoughts from Frankfurt: Germans dominate on home
RE: Thoughts from Frankfurt: Germans dominate on home
Friday 14th September 2007

Thoughts From Frankfurt: Germans Dominate On Home

Mightiest 911 yet; Audi firepower; BMW and Mercedes go green



It was as if we were back to 1987 on the Porsche stand, as the German firm unveiled the latest 911 Howitzers resplendent in Guards Red to form the centrepiece of the display.

Pride of place was the new 911 GT2 making its world public debut. You probably know the story backwards by now: 530bhp, 501lb ft of torque, weight down to 1440kg and of course, drive sent to the rear wheels only. For the full technical details see the PH story from 13/07/07, but the new GT2 really does look something very serious indeed. Although not perhaps quite as frightening at times as the last one: with PASM and PSM a Porsche insider who’s driven the car told PH that it is remarkably docile and comfortable to drive. Which only makes the raw speed on offer all the more shattering when you do deploy it. We can’t wait to experience that.


But we’ll leave it to Porsche to supply the final word. In true Porsche fashion, the German company delivered a masterpiece of understatement when introducing the GT2’s new launch control system that allows it to hit 0-62mph in 3.7 seconds time after time (and let’s face it, it’ll probably go faster still - they usually do): “Setting off with the launch assistant” it said. How very innocent that sounds…

Alongside the GT2 sat the new 997 Turbo Cabriolet, and the new limited edition Cayman S Porsche Design Edition 1 (of which around 70 of the 777 being made are due to come to the UK). The car features 911 Turbo wheels and PASM as standard along with a range of extra standard equipment.


It was the Cayenne area however that garnered the most action. Porsche unveiled the GTS – a sporting variant based on the regular ‘S’ that sits just below the Turbo model in the range. With an extra 20bhp (405 normally aspirated ponies) and a reduced final drive ratio, the GTS will go from 0-62mph in 6.1sec when fitted with the standard manual gearbox.  It also sits 24mm lower on the 21” alloy wheels, with a Turbo front and rear body kit and wheel arches blistered out by 14mm. A Cayenne GT3? Not quite…

Porsche also showed their future direction with the Cayenne Hybrid, due to make production in two years time. With a 3.6 litre V6 and a parallel Hybrid system that battery only running up to 75mph (unlike the city-only system in the Toyota Prius), the Porsche engineers are aiming to get realistic fuel consumption of around 32mpg by the time it’s ready. Expect it to then filter into other Porsche models after that.


BMW put its full weight behind its ‘Efficient Dynamics’ program at Frankfurt – the series of technical features such as direct injection, engine stop-start and Brake Energy Regeneration now appearing on a wide spread of models.

However, the big unveil for BMW was the new X6: an SUV for those that don’t want an SUV. Longer, lower and wider than an X5 we thought it looked really quite promising in the metal, and with a sophisticated new four wheel drive chassis it has to make premium off-road manufacturers everywhere more than a bit worried. There’s even rumour of an X6M which would feature the M5’s V10 motor. That’s sure to get the eco-campaigners on side, then. Perhaps the fact that the X6 was also shown with a prototype Hybrid drive train said to improve fuel consumption by 20% might pacify them a little bit.


As petrol heads we were immediately drawn like bugs to a bonfire towards the white M car phalanx. With an M6 cab, M5 touring, new M3 V8 and Z4M all in the saintly shade, it made for quite a formidable line up.

There was also the new 1 series coupe, a revised 6 series and a host of new power trains in various Munich favourites. It was, after all, a VERY big show stand…

Talking of white cars, the German manufacturers all seem to have decided that white was indeed the colour cool. And rarely did this look any better than when applied to the new C63 AMG wagon. We imagine this is a car that has the BMW M division rather worried right now.


But it was the environment that influenced the Merc stand the most, with a huge array of new technologies shown on the main floor area. Pride of place was the F700 concept – perhaps the one car at the show that genuinely gave you the feeling that it had come from another planet. Get a handle on these numbers: 258bhp, 295lb ft of torque, 53mpg combined and 127 g/km of co2. All from a 1.8 litre four cylinder engine. There’s too much tech to list here, but this is the new DiesOtto engine with variable compression and twin turbos that runs on petrol but delivers the best of petrol and diesel engines. Oh, and it also has a suspension system that pre-reads the road surface through the headlamps, setting itself up accordingly. Amazing…


Audi may have also been on the big green pitch, and also satisfied the mainstream by showing the new – and rather sensible A4 – but it was the debut of the new RS6 that caught our eye. Somehow, having 572bhp in an estate car seems slightly weird, but that’s what you get from a twin turbo, direct injection V10. We actually thought it looked quite mild considering the thugery potential, although extremely effective in – surprise surprise – white. And remember, it has 96lb ft of torque MORE than a BMW M5…

Oh, and we’ll take that white R8 too please. Yep, just as it is, don’t worry about cleaning off all the handprints…


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Marki

15,763 posts

293 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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ashfelt ,, tarmac ,,

Dogsey

4,301 posts

253 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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Article said:
It was the Cayenne area however that garnered the most action. Porsche unveiled the GTS – a sporting variant based on the regular ‘S’ that sits just below the Turbo model in the range. With an extra 20bhp (405 normally aspirated ponies) and a reduced final drive ratio, the GTS will go from 0-62mph in 6.1sec when fitted with the standard manual gearbox.
405BHP and it's 0-62MPH time is 6.1sec? Is it just me or is that really poor?

Strawman

6,463 posts

230 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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Dogsey said:
405BHP and it's 0-62MPH time is 6.1sec? Is it just me or is that really poor?
It's not bad for something that weighs over 2 tonnes, has the aerodynamics of a brick etc.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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Dogsey said:
Article said:
It was the Cayenne area however that garnered the most action. Porsche unveiled the GTS – a sporting variant based on the regular ‘S’ that sits just below the Turbo model in the range. With an extra 20bhp (405 normally aspirated ponies) and a reduced final drive ratio, the GTS will go from 0-62mph in 6.1sec when fitted with the standard manual gearbox.
405BHP and it's 0-62MPH time is 6.1sec? Is it just me or is that really poor?
It's all about power to weight ratios. A big truck has (Volvo FH16) has 600+ bhp and 1000 lbf+ of torque. Big numbers but I bet the 0-62 mph time is in the region of 30+sec. Is that considered poor?

I'm loving those white colour schemes. Those Audis are spermcloud9

Dogsey

4,301 posts

253 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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Strawman said:
Dogsey said:
405BHP and it's 0-62MPH time is 6.1sec? Is it just me or is that really poor?
It's not bad for something that weighs over 2 tonnes, has the aerodynamics of a brick etc.
My mistake, I read Cayman when it's the Cayenne.

boxedin

cableguy

2,287 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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Guards Red is one of my fave colours on the 911, only i'm not quite sure about it on the 997GT2... confused

Carrera White or Riviera Blue would have been a better choice for its show debut IMO. wink

C.

turbochrisgti

89 posts

225 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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White is the new Silver.....and Black it seems! BMW and Audi seem to have the same colour choices!

nickjm

361 posts

253 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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anonymous said:
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I saw one yesterday in dark grey. It was followed by a Ferrari F430. Couldn't hear the R8 though, still looked very nice though.

Frimley111R

18,390 posts

257 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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Am I the only one who looks at that lot and thinks...zzzzzz....?

arcbeer

485 posts

286 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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White was sooo last year

havoc

32,597 posts

258 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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Liking the sound of that Merc concept...they're full of surprises recently!!!

oagent

2,125 posts

266 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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The Merc concept sounds fantastic. Looks like at least one of the big German car makers is thinking clever and not just bolting an ever larger engine into their mid size saloon car. Variable compression sounds very interesting, easier to do than true variable displacement and the ability to run almost any fuel. A good bet for future road use maybe.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

251 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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Red looks very strange on a Porsche, but I suppose it makes a change from silversmile

flattotheboards

6,688 posts

229 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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white really does look good on those cars i have to admit

mjowsey

24 posts

229 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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Is silver the new white, or is white the new silver? rotate

Stu R

21,427 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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Love the look of the GT2, though perhaps not in that colour. cloud9

The merc concept seems to have a giant, squashed vagina on it's roof.