Finally I got a 997 GT3 last Friday!!!
Finally I got a 997 GT3 last Friday!!!
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gizard

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314 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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Some of you may be aware of my woes!

To cut a long story short. The order for my actual GT3 was cocked up by Porsche I'm lead to believe. As a result I have been lent free of charge the GT3 that turned up last month in place of mine, mine will be made 'by the end of the year' according to Porsche.

So I have a brand new Cobalt blue GT3 with comfort spec (and a sunroof!). It has pretty much all the toys:

Adaptive sports seats
Cruise control
Heated seats
Fire extinguisher
Floor mats
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including
extended navigation module
Sound Package Plus incl. CD storage box
Windscreen with grey top tint
Bi-Xenon lighting system
Automatically dimming interior
and exterior mirrors with
integrated rain sensor
Electric slide/tilt sunroof
Tyre Presure Monitoring system (TPM)
Cobalt Blue Metallic
Leather interior natural leather
Dark grey, seats
leather/Alcantara GT3
Leather interior in natural leather
Sport Chrono Package Plus


So far I'm loving it - except the Brakes don't fill me with a whole load of confidence (not enough bite for taste) - so I'm glad that I've gone with PCCB's for my actual order.
The other thing of note is the TPM seems very accurate - this is somethiong I did not order on my car - does anyone know if it can be retro fitted?

cheers

G.

anglebox10

2,733 posts

242 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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Good to hear you've finally got your hands on one, should get some decent driving miles in before the winter then !!
So who has actually lent you the car, was your original order not outside the PCGB network ??

gizard

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Friday 14th September 2007
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anglebox10 said:
Good to hear you've finally got your hands on one, should get some decent driving miles in before the winter then !!
So who has actually lent you the car, was your original order not outside the PCGB network ??
I don't feel I should give out any names yet - however I am now dealing direct with a UK based supplier who deals direct with Porsche - The UK based supplier (not part of PCGB) has lent me the car off their own back - which is very good of them.

Edited by gizard on Friday 14th September 11:41

Geneve

4,020 posts

250 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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SUNROOF eek

sambaman

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255 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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MUST HAVE A LONG NECK !


Geneve said:
SUNROOF eek

Slippydiff

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254 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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Geneve said:
SUNROOF eek
Must be a sceptic ................biggrin

DanH

12,287 posts

291 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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If you track the car, the TPM is likely to be more of an annoyance than a help wink

I suspect you could address the brake bite with some better pads.

Anyway glad you have got something to drive around in. Presumably they can't object to you tracking it?

Given Porsche are rustling up a car for you by the end of the year, that must be evidence that they are accepting the mistake lay with them?

gizard

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Friday 14th September 2007
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DanH said:
If you track the car, the TPM is likely to be more of an annoyance than a help wink

I suspect you could address the brake bite with some better pads.

Anyway glad you have got something to drive around in. Presumably they can't object to you tracking it?

Given Porsche are rustling up a car for you by the end of the year, that must be evidence that they are accepting the mistake lay with them?
TBH I'm probably not going to track the 'loan' car as I have to return it in a good condition etc. which is only fair IMO, and between now and the end of the year I would like to try and get away with not spending any money on things like tyres / pads on a car that is not mine.

- Re Porsche - it would seem like they are accepting fault - from what I have been told.

Why do you think the TPM will be a hinderance on track? - I rather like the fact the car comes with a it's own analogue pressure gauge and compressor - very cool!

Freewheeler

1,416 posts

239 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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sambaman said:
MUST HAVE A LONG NECK !


Geneve said:
SUNROOF eek
biglaugh

997GT3

3,139 posts

245 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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Does the TPM give readouts in PSI or bar? Can you change between the two?

gizard

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Friday 14th September 2007
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997GT3 said:
Does the TPM give readouts in PSI or bar? Can you change between the two?
You can switch

gizard

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Freewheeler said:
sambaman said:
MUST HAVE A LONG NECK !


Geneve said:
SUNROOF eek
biglaugh
It's not my car - i didn't order the sunroof (Mines clubsport spec - well I hope it will be that's what I ordered and it's says so on the order form!)

DanH

12,287 posts

291 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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gizard said:
DanH said:
If you track the car, the TPM is likely to be more of an annoyance than a help wink

I suspect you could address the brake bite with some better pads.

Anyway glad you have got something to drive around in. Presumably they can't object to you tracking it?

Given Porsche are rustling up a car for you by the end of the year, that must be evidence that they are accepting the mistake lay with them?
TBH I'm probably not going to track the 'loan' car as I have to return it in a good condition etc. which is only fair IMO, and between now and the end of the year I would like to try and get away with not spending any money on things like tyres / pads on a car that is not mine.

- Re Porsche - it would seem like they are accepting fault - from what I have been told.

Why do you think the TPM will be a hinderance on track? - I rather like the fact the car comes with a it's own analogue pressure gauge and compressor - very cool!
You need to adjust the pressures on track a fair distance from standard. I was under the impression this was a hassle and you'd end up with the alarm constantly annoying you? If it is just reporting the pressures and not flagging warnings I can see how it would be good.

Geneve

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250 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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gizard said:
- Re Porsche - it would seem like they are accepting fault - from what I have been told.
I very much doubt if "Porsche made a mistake". Having followed the saga for some months, it seems that there must be some unofficial parties in the chain, and that's more likely where the error was made.

The period when you had paid your money, but didn't have a car, was the most worrying. At least you now have a car, even if it is an unusual spec. Fingers crossed that your's arrives as promised.

gizard

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Friday 14th September 2007
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DanH said:
You need to adjust the pressures on track a fair distance from standard. I was under the impression this was a hassle and you'd end up with the alarm constantly annoying you? If it is just reporting the pressures and not flagging warnings I can see how it would be good.
Well - I haven't had a chance to test it yet - i.e. let a tyre down a fair bit and see what it does - but the actual level indication seems vary accurate when comparing it to the supplied analogue manual gauge - and with driving the pressure seems to fluctuate with temperature - as you would expect them to. - There is a more advanced side to it that allows you to specify the type of tyres (winter / summer) and it also tells you what pressure needs to be taken out / or put in per tyre - which I believe can be changed - someone else maybe able to shed some light on this. However I have expierence of the BMW system - which is a total anoyance by comparison so far.

gizard

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Friday 14th September 2007
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Geneve said:
gizard said:
- Re Porsche - it would seem like they are accepting fault - from what I have been told.
I very much doubt if "Porsche made a mistake". Having followed the saga for some months, it seems that there must be some unofficial parties in the chain, and that's more likely where the error was made.

The period when you had paid your money, but didn't have a car, was the most worrying. At least you now have a car, even if it is an unusual spec. Fingers crossed that your's arrives as promised.
Well the Blue car I have been lent was sent through as an initail order (although I never spec'd a sunroof!). However I never said this was an order at the time and yes you are correct there was Me - a finder, someone else, the supplier I'm now dealing with and finally Porsche (so yes there were problems here) However my deposit check was sent directly to the supplier along with a confirmed spec. which was faxed through the Porsche as a change to the order in late Jan this year, so I'm told. So I don't know excatly what went on but ultimatly I will still hopefully get what I wanted in the end and in the mean time I have been compensated very well imo.

Geneve

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Friday 14th September 2007
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Out of interest, is it a uk specification car (C16)?

DanH

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Friday 14th September 2007
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gizard said:
DanH said:
You need to adjust the pressures on track a fair distance from standard. I was under the impression this was a hassle and you'd end up with the alarm constantly annoying you? If it is just reporting the pressures and not flagging warnings I can see how it would be good.
Well - I haven't had a chance to test it yet - i.e. let a tyre down a fair bit and see what it does - but the actual level indication seems vary accurate when comparing it to the supplied analogue manual gauge - and with driving the pressure seems to fluctuate with temperature - as you would expect them to. - There is a more advanced side to it that allows you to specify the type of tyres (winter / summer) and it also tells you what pressure needs to be taken out / or put in per tyre - which I believe can be changed - someone else maybe able to shed some light on this. However I have expierence of the BMW system - which is a total anoyance by comparison so far.
I also have the BMW system, but that's a much simpler system that checks for a change in the rolling radius compared to your other tyres.

On the plus side, I'm sure you are saving some unsprung weight on the car you've ordered by not having this wink

gizard

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Friday 14th September 2007
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Geneve said:
Out of interest, is it a uk specification car (C16)?
yes it's C16.

gizard

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DanH said:
I also have the BMW system, but that's a much simpler system that checks for a change in the rolling radius compared to your other tyres.

On the plus side, I'm sure you are saving some unsprung weight on the car you've ordered by not having this wink
Well that's why I've got the PCCB's on my spec! wink but I'm curious to know excatly how the TPM works - the valve stems don't look normal to me, but then again I've got nothing to compare it to currently!