Christ - Stealers indeed

[jamoor]

Last time I enquired about a service the dealers weren't too bad, it seems they have gotten worse, or are they just quoting me expensive rates?
For a 330d
Oil service - £173
Coolant change - £178.96 - I'm sorry, filling my car up with glorified water and antifreeze costs THAT much??
Brake fluid - £60
Engine breather £40

I fell off my chair

£450?
I managed to get him down to £400

But I mean c'mon that just takes the ****

My indy wanted -
£80 for the service
£60 for coolant + brake fluid
£45 for the breather
£185.

What a con.
I could supply my own oil - but they cannot do that, nor can the other 5 dealers in my locality - £11.25 a litre for oil anyone?

[Muzzer]

jamoor said:

Last time I enquired about a service the dealers weren't too bad, it seems they have gotten worse, or are they just quoting me expensive rates?
For a 330d
Oil service - £173
Coolant change - £178.96 - I'm sorry, filling my car up with glorified water and antifreeze costs THAT much??
Brake fluid - £60
Engine breather £40

I fell off my chair

£450?
I managed to get him down to £400

But I mean c'mon that just takes the ****

My indy wanted -
£80 for the service
£60 for coolant + brake fluid
£45 for the breather
£185.

What a con.
I could supply my own oil - but they cannot do that, nor can the other 5 dealers in my locality - £11.25 a litre for oil anyone?

£173 for an oil service is good - I was quoted £180 on a 320ci (petrol)

I posted on here at the time and got a couple of replies along the lines of "It's an expensive car, what do you expect?"

This is horse-sh1t. It's a car at the end of the day and unless it's a 70's Italian car then changing the oil should be no different to anywhere else.

Oh, and not being able to supply your own oil is shocking - even my local dealers were willing to let me do that (didn't affect the extortionate labour rate though)

[Vesuvius 996]

Oh dear.

Even Porsche dealers let you supply your own oil, which is just as well given my 911 needs 12 litres of Mobil 1.

I got it for 40 sheets from CostCo as opposed to 160 from Porsche!

I know of on Lamborghini Murci owner who does the same with oil and plugs. Leaves them in the car when he books it in. No complaints from the dealer and he saves about 300 a time...!!

Even if you're loaded like him, no point in burning money!

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Friday 14th September 12:01

[cptsideways]

An oil service for how much!!!!

They buy the oil in at 60-90p a litre, a genuine oil filter costs sub £10 at trade prices & its 20 mins work tops.

How long does it take to earn the cost of that lot?

[clonmult]

cptsideways said:

An oil service for how much!!!!

They buy the oil in at 60-90p a litre, a genuine oil filter costs sub £10 at trade prices & its 20 mins work tops.

How long does it take to earn the cost of that lot?

If its a BMW dealership, they'll be quoting time to get the engine warm, empty oil, put in flushing oil, run engine for a bit, drain that, put in new oil ....

But I agree, its darned pricey. I was quoted up to about £120 for my 318iS oil service .....

[Ralph S3]

Yesterday my 525d Tourer had

Oil Service
Rear Brake Pads
Fluid Change
Intake service????
Breather service

and cost.....wait for it.....



£800



Beyond rip off. Goodbye BMW after 5 consecutive cars...!!!

I'm off to buy a 10 year old 993. For the same money I'll be driving a childhood dream rather than a new BMW which quite frankly is no where near as well built as my previous E39 528

[mmm-five]

Did all 4 discs & uprated pads (DS2500), handbrake shoes, oil service and fluids for a total of £500 (parts only as labour was 'free').

[Vesuvius 996]

Ralph S3 said:

Yesterday my 525d Tourer had

Oil Service
Rear Brake Pads
Fluid Change
Intake service????
Breather service

and cost.....wait for it.....



£800



Beyond rip off. Goodbye BMW after 5 consecutive cars...!!!

I'm off to buy a 10 year old 993. For the same money I'll be driving a childhood dream rather than a new BMW which quite frankly is no where near as well built as my previous E39 528

I've got a bill in my folder for

Discs and pads
Plugs
24k service
Brake fluid

3250.


If you think the BMW is expensive.........

[anonymous-user]

Ralph S3 said:

I'm off to buy a 10 year old 993. For the same money I'll be driving a childhood dream rather than a new BMW which quite frankly is no where near as well built as my previous E39 528

What make you think the 993 is going to be any cheaper to service?

[Ralph S3]

Nothing. I fully expect the 993 to be more expensive servicing (although whole life costs may not be much worse as I hope that a 993 might not depreciate like my 525 will). I guess my point was simply that BMW are getting too expensive relative to the pleasure I get out of owning them. If I am going to pay loads of money then I'll spend it on something I've always dreamed of.

R

[emicen]

So the 5yr servicing and maintenance pack isnt such a bad option to tick then...

[jamoor]

emicen said:

So the 5yr servicing and maintenance pack isnt such a bad option to tick then...

Mine had that box ticked, but it now has 92k

[Mustard]

cptsideways said:

An oil service for how much!!!!

They buy the oil in at 60-90p a litre, a genuine oil filter costs sub £10 at trade prices & its 20 mins work tops.

How long does it take to earn the cost of that lot?

You having a laugh? It costs considerably more than that! (For Mobil 1 castrol Edge etc)

[Grebo911]

Have got a 535d, 335d coupe and a 993 S - first service on 535d was £240 (oil service only) - 12k service at a specialist for the 993 is about £300 considering this includes 2 oil filters and air filter and 11.5 litres of mobil 1 - thats pretty good value. But then with labour rates at BMW at £95 per hour and at Indy £50 there will always be a big differential.

[cptsideways]

Mustard said:

cptsideways said:

An oil service for how much!!!!

They buy the oil in at 60-90p a litre, a genuine oil filter costs sub £10 at trade prices & its 20 mins work tops.

How long does it take to earn the cost of that lot?

You having a laugh? It costs considerably more than that! (For Mobil 1 castrol Edge etc)

I bet it does'nt say what oil they put in it on the bill? It'll be some generic brand bought in bulk & yes thats the cost of decent oil in bulk. Maybe the M cars get Mobil but not your average German Mondeo. Just because halfrauds sell 4l for £30 does'nt mean thats the real cost

[Mustard]

cptsideways said:

Mustard said:

cptsideways said:

An oil service for how much!!!!

They buy the oil in at 60-90p a litre, a genuine oil filter costs sub £10 at trade prices & its 20 mins work tops.

How long does it take to earn the cost of that lot?

You having a laugh? It costs considerably more than that! (For Mobil 1 castrol Edge etc)

I bet it does'nt say what oil they put in it on the bill? It'll be some generic brand bought in bulk & yes thats the cost of decent oil in bulk. Maybe the M cars get Mobil but not your average German Mondeo. Just because halfrauds sell 4l for £30 does'nt mean thats the real cost

Oil spec, grade and make is fully itemised on invoices of All Porsche, BMW , Mercedes and Audi Dealers and I think you'll find that is laid down in the manufacters dealer standards

Yes it is bought in bulk so it can be on 'draft' for convenience but the price saving is minimal per ltr compared to the 'can'

I know what the 'true' cost is..... Ive seen the bulk bills from Mobil!

PS I use both Main Dealers and Specialists for my families cars and my general rule of thumb is main dealer upto 5yrs 60k then Specialist there after

Yes you can save money by taking your own but if y

[jamoor]

I asked him about the oil.

Castrol something or other.

[Dino D]

Ralph S3 said:

I'm off to buy a 10 year old 993.

You'll be back after you take your 993 to an OPC saying you going to buy a Honda instead!!!

It's not the cars fault, it's the dealers.....

[Mastiff]

£124.00 per hour may have something to do with it...

[NickXX]

jamoor said:

Coolant change - £178.96 - I'm sorry, filling my car up with glorified water and

I hear it's Holy water that the BMW dealers use.