Will our wedges become classics?
Discussion
They are classics, especially among the TVR fraternity, not enough around to create the classic status of say the MGB.
In the current market i wouldn't say wedges were particularly cheap, not relatively to other cars anyway.
having owned wedges for 10 years i didn't feel that parts were that over priced, use the independant specialists.
Tim.
In the current market i wouldn't say wedges were particularly cheap, not relatively to other cars anyway.
having owned wedges for 10 years i didn't feel that parts were that over priced, use the independant specialists.
Tim.
The Wedge is a classic a)amoungst cars and b)amongst TVR's due to it's unique shape. IMHO - the value took a ding over the past year by about £500 - £1k (look at 400SE ad's last year to this) which is probably due to Tamora/Tuscans arrival pushing the Griff/Chimp prices down and thus the prices of the latter in old form into the good 400/450 SE region and thus those seeking a sports car not necessarily fixed on a TVR bought these due to familiarity. HOWEVER and once again IMHO the prices will stabalise and eventually for the rarer Wedges I believe they will rise.
Are they a classic - need you ask - YES YES YES YES-- BBW BBW (as Stainless would say)
GB
Are they a classic - need you ask - YES YES YES YES-- BBW BBW (as Stainless would say)
GB
I agree with everyone ,they are classics but very rare ones.Hope they will never be compared to MGs(there like ar$eholes every bodys got one, not knocking them honest 
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I think the prices of the rare models will go up abit, but its only going to be the select few enthusiasts who will buy them.
So thats us lot
BIG BAD WEDGE
) I think the prices of the rare models will go up abit, but its only going to be the select few enthusiasts who will buy them.
So thats us lot
BIG BAD WEDGE
I think that Wedge's are an aquired taste. Sought after cars in their own way. I would like a go at a Griff but the 400 sends tingles down my spine that are scary. Styling is in your face aggressive. Love it to bits. Sound's like hell opening up (no cats). They are a classic in my mind and with a dedicated following.
All hail Winterbottom and TVR.
). They are a classic in my mind and with a dedicated following. All hail Winterbottom and TVR.
Absolutely agree, they are classics and not only that, an extremely important part of TVR history. The wedge filled the gap between the successful "M" series and the car that started the revival of TVR, the Griff. The wedge reflects the transitions in TVR, in management, product development, power, image, racing etc. A large chunk of what has made TVR what it is today is wedge related, Chassis development, trailing arm to A frame for example, the TVR Tuscan challenge started with the 4.5 liter V8 that was detuned for the 450SE and 450SEAC, the more rounded styling of the SEAC, leading to the defunct speed 8 car, leading to the Griff etc etc. Its all there and started with wedges, being refined and helped on the way by the "S" series.
In my book, its a classic, and its these cars that can be categorised as pure sports cars, as they are hand built, british, light weight, powerful, rear wheel drive and some even come with roofs!!!!
But don't tell everyone, 'cause they won't understand.
Nige'
In my book, its a classic, and its these cars that can be categorised as pure sports cars, as they are hand built, british, light weight, powerful, rear wheel drive and some even come with roofs!!!!
But don't tell everyone, 'cause they won't understand.
Nige'
I agree with Nige's assessment. Obviously, the word "classic" when referring to automobiles, is different things to different people. As Nige pointed out, in the framework of the TVR model history, the wedge cars are an important part of the overall picture and, while the values had suffered in recent years, they (at least here in the States), are rebounding and, I believe, will continue to do so in the coming years. While they don't appeal to all TVR fans, they do have their strong following and I do feel they will maintain that following over the years.
No question they are all classics. That doesn't mean they will ever be worth more than they are now however. there are plenty of very, very, special cars out there that are worth stuff all in comparison to a new Vectra. (What's an XJ12 worth?)
Clearly the V8s will hold value better, but even the 280i is quite zippy enough to demand some respect. SEACs etc are different and will always be collectable.
The overriding factor with classic cars is, IMHO, looks. Power, handling, rarity etc add to that, but if it's ugly, it ain't gonna be saved from the scrap heap.
lots of people (my wife included) think wedges are ugly, 80's, styling blunders. Right up there with those "grotesque" early Esprits.... You either love 'em or hate 'em.
To me they epitomise the time they were made and still look so much better and more striking than anything else on the road (except perhaps the early Esprit...) that their classic status is assured.
Oh yeah, and while I'm at it, the 280/350 shape is purer and therefore better styled than the later curvier shape....
Clearly the V8s will hold value better, but even the 280i is quite zippy enough to demand some respect. SEACs etc are different and will always be collectable.
The overriding factor with classic cars is, IMHO, looks. Power, handling, rarity etc add to that, but if it's ugly, it ain't gonna be saved from the scrap heap.
lots of people (my wife included) think wedges are ugly, 80's, styling blunders. Right up there with those "grotesque" early Esprits.... You either love 'em or hate 'em.
To me they epitomise the time they were made and still look so much better and more striking than anything else on the road (except perhaps the early Esprit...) that their classic status is assured.
Oh yeah, and while I'm at it, the 280/350 shape is purer and therefore better styled than the later curvier shape....
Toby,
Contraversial ending! I've got both the 350i (not on the road) and the 420 SEAC here in the garage and interestingly the lads in the shop almost all gawp in awe at the SEAC and say how aggressive looking it is yet all prefer the cleaner lines of the 350. I have mixed feelings - they both have there merits. Whatever! - they are classics IMHO, but as said elsewhere here, people either love-em or hate-em. Since there an '80's icon maybe a Wedge fest with Abba on stereo and frilly shirts - On second thoughts - Nahh.
GB
Contraversial ending! I've got both the 350i (not on the road) and the 420 SEAC here in the garage and interestingly the lads in the shop almost all gawp in awe at the SEAC and say how aggressive looking it is yet all prefer the cleaner lines of the 350. I have mixed feelings - they both have there merits. Whatever! - they are classics IMHO, but as said elsewhere here, people either love-em or hate-em. Since there an '80's icon maybe a Wedge fest with Abba on stereo and frilly shirts - On second thoughts - Nahh.
GB
In my opinion, for any car to become a classic, it has to be desirable when it was new and possibly priced out of reach when new. Being a tight git, I prefer to savour the delights of desirable cars after suckers throw their cash into depreciation! It's just a matter of deciding when is the right time to leap in. I have run allsorts of interesting cars over the years, the odd ones falling into the classic category. I certainly think that my 350i is a classic. It always turns heads. It is obviously not modern styling. There are not many designers who can get away with just using a ruler and pencil... I expect TVR couldn't afford to buy a set of French Curves in the early 80's...
I don't however think that Wedges will ever achieve the cult status, and high prices of E-Types etc, so just enjoy your wedge! I do!
I don't however think that Wedges will ever achieve the cult status, and high prices of E-Types etc, so just enjoy your wedge! I do!
TAS, thought that might provoke a reaction.
I just about had to walk backwards out of the carpark this morning. Still gawping at the tiv after 18 months ownership.
Totally echo the comment re waiting for depreciation. Nothing puts a damper on proceedings like realising your pride and joy has just dropped 25% of its value last year.
Tightwad nothing...I call it common sense.
I just about had to walk backwards out of the carpark this morning. Still gawping at the tiv after 18 months ownership.
Totally echo the comment re waiting for depreciation. Nothing puts a damper on proceedings like realising your pride and joy has just dropped 25% of its value last year.
Tightwad nothing...I call it common sense.
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