Seatbelt guides
Discussion
I have seen one of these Clive and yes they look good. My only concern is they look like they pull the belt to one side before coming over your shoulder which looks like its creases the Belt up.
This also worries me as if having to emergency brake would the belt work and then would you get this part braking under the stress as its not a nice fluid line from the back the clip?
I think if you had come of the actual Belt guide at the rear of each seat from the bolt above and then then it would move with the belt better, Same material but flat bar coming of of it and the hoop below it. As seen on some other convertables but normally plastic ( pah)
Just IMHO and keep up teh good work
BB
This also worries me as if having to emergency brake would the belt work and then would you get this part braking under the stress as its not a nice fluid line from the back the clip?
I think if you had come of the actual Belt guide at the rear of each seat from the bolt above and then then it would move with the belt better, Same material but flat bar coming of of it and the hoop below it. As seen on some other convertables but normally plastic ( pah)
Just IMHO and keep up teh good work
BB
I`ll send some off to you tommorrow paul, and those to people who ordered over the weekend.
I did try a guide that came from the belt guide behind the seat, but this has a few draw backs, as the existing guide is fixed, ie it doesn`t swivel as with a lot of cars which would help with the line the belt follows when wearing it, also the length of the extra guide may affect different people, short people would need a longish guide, whereas tall people a short one, and the main reason for me would be the fact that in the event of a shunt, the guide would be to strong, mainly from a point of view that if it were pushed forward it could do you some serious gamage, also, if you were pushed backwards the same could happen.
with the guide fitted to the roof hinge bolt, it makes it a more universal design and fit for all hieghts of driver, and have purposefully made it from a small enough diameter bar to be strong enough to withstand the pull on the belt, yet weak enough to be bent if your body were forced against it.( I have tried it under hard braking conditions, but I`m no crash test dummy
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to be honest, I think that the best place for a guide is to actually have it fitted to the top corner of the seat, above your shoulder, I believe this is common in most mercs, but would have to be incorperated into the seat frame to take the strain, but how many people want to have to strip and recover their seats, not me.
but if there are any better ideas, I`m all ears.
I did try a guide that came from the belt guide behind the seat, but this has a few draw backs, as the existing guide is fixed, ie it doesn`t swivel as with a lot of cars which would help with the line the belt follows when wearing it, also the length of the extra guide may affect different people, short people would need a longish guide, whereas tall people a short one, and the main reason for me would be the fact that in the event of a shunt, the guide would be to strong, mainly from a point of view that if it were pushed forward it could do you some serious gamage, also, if you were pushed backwards the same could happen.
with the guide fitted to the roof hinge bolt, it makes it a more universal design and fit for all hieghts of driver, and have purposefully made it from a small enough diameter bar to be strong enough to withstand the pull on the belt, yet weak enough to be bent if your body were forced against it.( I have tried it under hard braking conditions, but I`m no crash test dummy
)to be honest, I think that the best place for a guide is to actually have it fitted to the top corner of the seat, above your shoulder, I believe this is common in most mercs, but would have to be incorperated into the seat frame to take the strain, but how many people want to have to strip and recover their seats, not me.
but if there are any better ideas, I`m all ears.
clive f said:
I`ll send some off to you tommorrow paul, and those to people who ordered over the weekend.
I did try a guide that came from the belt guide behind the seat, but this has a few draw backs, as the existing guide is fixed, ie it doesn`t swivel as with a lot of cars which would help with the line the belt follows when wearing
The existing guide should swivel Clive, I have to move mine to get the roof fully down. Yes they can be a little stiff ( oo er) to move sometimes but shuld be free to move. Attached to this IMHO would be alot better. I did try a guide that came from the belt guide behind the seat, but this has a few draw backs, as the existing guide is fixed, ie it doesn`t swivel as with a lot of cars which would help with the line the belt follows when wearing
ATB
BB
The Griffalo said:
What about something that fits to the headrest?
the headrest stalk doesn`t feel substancial enough to do the job, and some people have their headrests fully down, leaving no room for a bracket, also in a shunt the headrest could be twisted by the guide when under strain from the belt and could harm your head I think.hi simon
Edited by clive f on Sunday 16th September 20:55
I was very tempted to buy me a nice shiny pair, but i didn't and i tell you why. I'm a fairly long person (1.93 meter you do the math) and my shoulders are way above the backrest of the car.
From the seatbeltloop the belt goes up and over my shoulders. I made a (simple) seatbelt guide to see how the seatbelt would go when the guide was attached to the rear hood pivotpoint. For me this was a very uncomfortable position, the seatbelt was pulling down on my shoulder way harder than normal. I'm lucky enough to fit in the car, and would love to have a pair of shiny seatbelt guides, but they are just not for me.
Maybe in the future there will be a model to acommodate long people, i'm more than willing to try again then.
Fred
From the seatbeltloop the belt goes up and over my shoulders. I made a (simple) seatbelt guide to see how the seatbelt would go when the guide was attached to the rear hood pivotpoint. For me this was a very uncomfortable position, the seatbelt was pulling down on my shoulder way harder than normal. I'm lucky enough to fit in the car, and would love to have a pair of shiny seatbelt guides, but they are just not for me.
Maybe in the future there will be a model to acommodate long people, i'm more than willing to try again then.
Fred
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