Zymol Ital Estate Glaze Wax
Zymol Ital Estate Glaze Wax
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michael1984

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9 posts

230 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Hi i have a 8oz jar of Zymol Ital Estate Glaze Wax for sale if anyone is interested please Email me (devil1192k@aol.com) with an offer this is brand new un opened and retails at over 360pounds.


Vipers

33,524 posts

259 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Good to have a laugh.................. I know it costs a lot, but the cost of this product is just outragous.

And lets be honest, does anyone even notice, or care?

smile

michael1984

Original Poster:

9 posts

230 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Viper yeah the product does cost a lot, and yes the product is worth it and a lot of people do care what they use on there expensive cars.

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Ital is designed for use with Ferraris (from memory), not Porsches.

Vipers

33,524 posts

259 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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OK, but what is the difference between it, and other wax's? I wash my car a couple of times a week, vacuum inside etc, and clean the wheels, no easy task on a Volvo, not with my wheels anyway, OK, not an expensive car, but I just hate dirty cars.

Only paid 17k for the Volvo, but even if it was a roller or whatever, how do you justify that price for a can of wax, does it last longer, does it look shiner.

Dont take this the wrong way, I am genuinly interested, dont think I am taking the michal.

smile


michael1984

Original Poster:

9 posts

230 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Your memory is wrong Zymol can be used on any car,


michael1984

Original Poster:

9 posts

230 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Viper you pay for the quality of the Carnauba Wax, you will defo see a difference from using ordinary cheap versions, yes it does make the car shine more and also gives it a deep glaze and also protects the car longer. a pot if used correctly would last a few years you only need to apply a bean size amount on each panel.

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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I'm not disputing that it can be used on any car.

Zymol Glasur is the recommended porsche-specific wax. Ital is designed for Italian cars - and Ferraris in particular.

I'll accept an apology once you've checked the Zymol website for yourself wink

JulesV

1,802 posts

255 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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I thought it was a polish specially formulated for an old Morris. laugh

michael1984

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9 posts

230 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Lurking there aint going to be an apology, yes the ital glaze was ORIGINALLY made for the ferrari but it can give the exact same effect on any other car. the Atlantique Glaze was made for the Ralph Lauren's 1937 Bugatti Type 57SC Atlantique, doesnt mean that it is the only car that can use it if so they wouldnt sell much of that one.

Vipers

33,524 posts

259 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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michael1984 said:
Viper you pay for the quality of the Carnauba Wax, you will defo see a difference from using ordinary cheap versions, yes it does make the car shine more and also gives it a deep glaze and also protects the car longer. a pot if used correctly would last a few years you only need to apply a bean size amount on each panel.
Thank you for that, think I will stick to my Auto Glym, no offence but I actually "enjoy" washing and waxing my car on a regular basis, and I feel that Auto Glym is fine for me, show cars may be a different kettle of fish, but again, thank you for your comments.

smile

graeme36s

7,230 posts

248 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Don't mention the word kettle you'll start of another aircooled versus watercooled debate wink

ADDLED

149 posts

233 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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michael1984 said:
Your memory is wrong Zymol can be used on any car,
Hi, youre right; you can use any wax on any car. I can also run my 911 on 95RON and mineral oil... but I wouldnt.

IMVVVHO, if youre selling PREMIUM waxes for PREMIUM prices for use on PREMIUM vehicles then I think its only fair to tell the whole story; and my memory reminded me to look at the website of a well known UK detailer and licenced Zymol agent and I found this handy little spiel;

"Italian cars have very special needs when waxing. Ital Glaze is specially formulated to protect and enhance the relatively soft paint finish of the Italian car."
Ergo, what a surprise, there was also a section on wax for Porsches.
"The brilliant finish on Porsche cars has special needs that are now addressed with Zymol Glasur Glaze".

I dont know you so will give the benefit of the doubt and guess that you're probably selling a good wax on the wrong forum. Good luck elsewhere.

But there is also another thing to bear in mind; it seems that Zymol have increased the Carnauba content in a lot of their waxes and the price has been hiked significantly to reflect the increased quality. Ive recently noticed, on a well known auction site, independant sellers (not licenced retailers etc, i hasten to add) touting the older Zymol waxes as the newer Zymol products and selling for less than the revised prices. At the time these products werent even available on the EU or UK market, so questions must be asked as to their authenticity as the newer version. Questions as to the provenance/version of the product are often responded to with very vague info.

If youre paying almost £400 for a pot of wax you certainly need to know its the real deal.
Obi

Oh, i also noticed a quote from a satisfied Italglaze user that its the best thing hes used on his Alfa 159. Come Christmas he might be able to trade his pot of wax in for another 159.... or a Brera. It will certainly be worth more!.smile

Edited by ADDLED on Sunday 16th September 23:00

WelshChris

1,305 posts

285 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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I use autoglym on my Type 57 - seems to work ok scratchchin












hehe

off your marks

1,368 posts

234 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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hi there

right, before i bang on, these are just my opinions. I'm not trying to push anything and only want to contribute to this thread i think i have something to add. so play nicely angel

Just for the record - Ital has 47% carnauba by volume - however the split on the said percentage is 90% of the volumetric figure is 'yellow' carnauba and the remaining 10% is white.

the yellow is said to be a slightly less pure strain than white, however slightly tougher hence the specified use on softer itallian cars paintwork.

It will 'look' great on any car though. the overall finish comes from the correct prep prior to application. I carry and use ital, glasur, concours, vintage and royale and have used the many on both greman and italian thoroughbreds. I usually decide on the wax when talking to customer about use of the car, wash frequency and of course budget.

So, i think the wax being sold by the topic starter is a really good wax. but there will always be people who prefer their own brands, time doing it and money they are prepared to pay.

One thing for the momery banks though guys - most maintstream off the shelfers are littered with chemicals and solvants. so you may be getting an easy quick fix shine but looking at the big picture potentially ageing the very paint you are trying to make shiney eek


Kind Regards

Matthew (offyourmarks.com)




Edited by off your marks on Monday 17th September 06:47

michael1984

Original Poster:

9 posts

230 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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Thanks you Mark, you hit the nail on the head there, using the cheaper waxes have solvents in them so you could be doing more damage than good, like they say you get what you pay for.

headlesshorseman

619 posts

237 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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mr sheen shines umpteen things clean

off your marks

1,368 posts

234 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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headlesshorseman said:
mr sheen shines umpteen things clean
biggrinbiggrin

Lagerlout

1,812 posts

267 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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off your marks said:
hi there

right, before i bang on, these are just my opinions. I'm not trying to push anything and only want to contribute to this thread i think i have something to add. so play nicely angel

Just for the record - Ital has 47% carnauba by volume - however the split on the said percentage is 90% of the volumetric figure is 'yellow' carnauba and the remaining 10% is white.

the yellow is said to be a slightly less pure strain than white, however slightly tougher hence the specified use on softer itallian cars paintwork.

It will 'look' great on any car though. the overall finish comes from the correct prep prior to application. I carry and use ital, glasur, concours, vintage and royale and have used the many on both greman and italian thoroughbreds. I usually decide on the wax when talking to customer about use of the car, wash frequency and of course budget.

So, i think the wax being sold by the topic starter is a really good wax. but there will always be people who prefer their own brands, time doing it and money they are prepared to pay.

One thing for the momery banks though guys - most maintstream off the shelfers are littered with chemicals and solvants. so you may be getting an easy quick fix shine but looking at the big picture potentially ageing the very paint you are trying to make shiney eek


Kind Regards

Matthew (offyourmarks.com)




Edited by off your marks on Monday 17th September 06:47
...and some products sold as waxes that come in white bottles contain abraisives.. not to mention sh1tty white residue blah blah.

I like Zymol have it on my GTC in Royal Rouge form, but for every day stuff that doesn't cost a fortune I like Bilt Hamber polish, even rust proofs and provides a gorgeous wet look. I layer this with a wax OTT, for the silver 911 I prefer Pinnacle Souveran. On darker cars Mothers paste wax is excellent and lasts forever compared to most other waxes, their 3 stage system is very good and not a lot of money. Layering wax every 24 hours makes a big difference to the shine FWIW.