What Wheelbase for 2008??
What Wheelbase for 2008??
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Dunit

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645 posts

234 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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When Ferrari showed their new car at the start of 2007, every one commented at its long W/base against all the other designs and if it was better for the Bridgestones.
Well I think you can say it has been the best chassis over the season except the point and squirt cicuits with high kerbs which have gone to Mclaren.
So what way do you expect the teams to go for 2008?
I suppose the ideal is if you could have both and use what ever suits but I suppose there is something in the regs to stop this.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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If you listened to some people on here you'd expect McLaren's car to be a silver Ferrari next season, anyway. rolleyes

Baldylocks

20,947 posts

238 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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Would'nt that be stealing Ferrari ideas? scratchchin

I'm sure other teams have considered a longer wheelbase and chose not to go with them for whatever reason - weight distribution perhaps? does Ferrari not have a particularly light/compact gearbox? (or did I make that up?!)

Using a short and a long chassis for different tracks is an interesting idea. Think the rules would allow that; teams sometimes bring out 'next years' car towards the end of a season (if their current one is crap)

Edited by Baldylocks on Tuesday 18th September 16:53

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

235 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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Baldylocks said:
Would'nt that be stealing Ferrari ideas? scratchchin

I'm sure other teams have considered a longer wheelbase and chose not to go with them for whatever reason - weight distribution perhaps? does Ferrari not have a particularly light/compact gearbox? (or did I make that up?!)
carefull, todt might ask the fia to investigate you for espionage.....


996 Nobbys

71 posts

231 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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castrolcraig said:
Baldylocks said:
Would'nt that be stealing Ferrari ideas? scratchchin

I'm sure other teams have considered a longer wheelbase and chose not to go with them for whatever reason - weight distribution perhaps? does Ferrari not have a particularly light/compact gearbox? (or did I make that up?!)
carefull, todt might ask the fia to investigate you for espionage.....
wouldnt put it past him: rolleyes

Edited by 996 Nobbys on Tuesday 18th September 17:02

FourWheelDrift

92,242 posts

313 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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Dunit said:
I suppose the ideal is if you could have both and use what ever suits but I suppose there is something in the regs to stop this.
I don't think there is, because new cars get introduced during a season. For example the new Spyker.

I think it's likely a performance issue, they are working flat out to get the most from the car they have to use to start using a different car at a half the circuits and double the testing/setup effort. I'm sure changing the wheelbase effects quite a lot of the aero package.

toomuchbeer

877 posts

237 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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FourWheelDrift said:
Dunit said:
I suppose the ideal is if you could have both and use what ever suits but I suppose there is something in the regs to stop this.
I don't think there is, because new cars get introduced during a season. For example the new Spyker.

I think it's likely a performance issue, they are working flat out to get the most from the car they have to use to start using a different car at a half the circuits and double the testing/setup effort. I'm sure changing the wheelbase effects quite a lot of the aero package.
Ssshhhh, don't tell Ferrari, but what you could do, is have an expandable floor, like my daughters roller skates, they go from size 1 to size 8 (or something), a couple of wing nuts to tighten it all up, and bob's your uncle.smash

Ding... next question please...nuts

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Wednesday 19th September 2007
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Way back in the 'good old days' if you wanted a longer w/base for certain tracks you would make up a splacer to fit between the roll hoop and the DFV. Shift the whole rear section back an inch or so.

I think these days it would be much more difficult to do - probably require new chassis designs, very different loads, extra weight that might offset the gain and, presumably, another crash test certificate.

Of course there may be more sophisticated ways to achieve the same results.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 19th September 2007
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The common practice was to increase the length of the bellhousing between the engine and gearbox, that way the weight of the engine stays as close to the centre of the tub as posible, plus all the cooling systems stay intact and dont need modifying.

They still vary the geometries all year round to suit the circuits, but the basic chassis concept and packaging is relatively fixed, which will limit how much the wheelbase is altered during the season.