Horrible key
Horrible key
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AlRaven

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408 posts

239 months

Friday 21st September 2007
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My '97 4.0 has got the circular alarm fob which is ok but the key itself is a horrible Astra item - any way of adapting it or renewing to something that actual looks decent, with TVR on??

Paulo.dicanio

250 posts

241 months

Friday 21st September 2007
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Funny I was going to post something similar. I don't think its right I start the beast with what looks like a 1984 Opel Manta key.

MrE

70 posts

230 months

Friday 21st September 2007
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I only received the keys to my first ever TVR on thursday, and the key itself is about as exciting as the keys to the fiat tipo I had been driving around for 5 years! I wondered if my keys had been replaced or something but obviously not.

SimonV8ster

13,022 posts

258 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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No, all standard Vauxhall/Opel keys and barrel I believe, nothing more exciting than that !! (but at least you might be able to get a key cut fairly locally !! wink)

Cider Andy

1,889 posts

255 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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If you have the Meta alarm fitted you can combine the alarm fob with the key. See here for details.

JonRB

80,103 posts

302 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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If you can get hold of a Tuscan blank and can find a key cutter able to cut such an old key (many no longer have the machine to do it) then you end up with a much nicer key and as an added bonus you can put the insides of your Meta alarm fob in it to end up with the aforementioned key conversion with less hassle.

See this thread:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=320...


Edited by JonRB on Saturday 22 September 10:10

thenick

4,027 posts

242 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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I had this problem too and one of my keys had a crack in the plastic so I did the following:

- cut plastic bit off key

- put a big lump of liquid metal onto the end of the key (the putty stuff which turns hard as steel supposedly)

- once the putty had set into a fairly large lump, I took a file to the top and bottom to get it to the right thickness and flat.

- then drew out a shape in pencil (I went for a sort of streched heptagon), drilled a hole for the keyring and filed down to the pencil line.

- got some sandpaper and rounded off all the edges until it had the right look.

- went over with some very fine wet/dry paper to make it super smooth.

- sprayed with plastic primer, then colour matched body colour, then lots of laquer all from Halfords

Thats about it! I did it while waiting in the fitting bay for my friend to finish work at Halfords and the longest part was waiting for the paint layers to dry... Very easy to do and the key looks a hundred times better and has held up very well for the last 8 months aside from a couple of chips in the paint from dropping it a few times. I would put a picture up but i'm not at home at the moment and don't have a way of getting it onto the computer but it does look good I promise! thumbup

OscarT

758 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Are you guys scared of ending up with the Minger at a wife swap party?

ariddell

440 posts

259 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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I transfered mine over into a flip style key, embedded the old circular Cobra fob. Looks/feels way nicer than the old one.







AlRaven

Original Poster:

408 posts

239 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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Yeah, that's more like it! how though - do I need an alarm guy to do this?

Timja

1,955 posts

239 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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That looks good - Much prefer to have one where you can fold away the key part to avoid stabbing a hole in your pocket/leg! when you sit down.

Could they easily cut the key into the blank you used?

I know someone at a company that make key blanks so could have a word - not sure if they do car keys, but may be worth asking. Have a feeling they could end up being pricey though as those modern keys are expensive to replace!

ariddell

440 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th September 2007
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The flip key blank is from a Holden VE Commodore, pretty easy to source over here in Australia.

You might be able to get one the same for the Vauxhall VXR in the UK.

The blank is 1mm wider than the Chim key so needs to be trimmed down before the key is cut, or you could do what i did and just swap the blades over.

The inside of the electronic part has been hollowed out and the board replaced with the board from my old Cobra alarm fob. Only issue is that the buttons don't match up so the button marked for boot opening is actually the lock/unlock botton.

Pretty happy with how it turned out, will probably do my spare key the same at some stage.

LordGrover

34,185 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th September 2007
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AlRaven said:
Yeah, that's more like it! how though - do I need an alarm guy to do this?
Dunno whether you have to, but Carl Baker did a cracking job of mine.

ETA picture:



Edited by LordGrover on Thursday 27th September 08:10

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th September 2007
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There's a good little article here about modifying your key so that it's part of the alarm fob.
Might be worth a try?

tucker20

285 posts

257 months

Wednesday 26th September 2007
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ariddell said:
The blank is 1mm wider than the Chim key so needs to be trimmed down before the key is cut, or you could do what i did and just swap the blades over.
Question! how did you change the blades over? With flip keys the metal key is a one piece construction that folds round onto the plastic fob, how did you swap it out with your Chim key?


Cheers

smile

ariddell

440 posts

259 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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On the Holden flip key the blade is a seperate part mounted into a swiveling metal base and locked in place with a groove and pin.

This made it pretty easy to remove the pin by hammering it out, remove the old blade, and then shape the end of the Chim blade once removed from its old plastic cover to match. Took a little bit of time with the trusty Dremmel but the key metal is soft enough for it not to be too much of an ordeal.


LordGrover

34,185 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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ariddell said:
On the Holden flip key the blade is a seperate part mounted into a swiveling metal base and locked in place with a groove and pin.

This made it pretty easy to remove the pin by hammering it out, remove the old blade, and then shape the end of the Chim blade once removed from its old plastic cover to match. Took a little bit of time with the trusty Dremmel but the key metal is soft enough for it not to be too much of an ordeal.
Ditto Audi key.

AlRaven

Original Poster:

408 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Think I'll have a word with Carl Baker then, the flip key sounds a bit of a faff on, presumably he uses a Tuscan blank - does it haver "TVR" on it?

tucker20

285 posts

257 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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ariddell said:
On the Holden flip key the blade is a seperate part mounted into a swiveling metal base and locked in place with a groove and pin.

This made it pretty easy to remove the pin by hammering it out, remove the old blade, and then shape the end of the Chim blade once removed from its old plastic cover to match. Took a little bit of time with the trusty Dremmel but the key metal is soft enough for it not to be too much of an ordeal.
Most helpful smile

Cheers

LordGrover

34,185 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Nope, not the one Carl does (as standard) anyway - I didn't ask. It's still a neat, almost elegant solution to the hideous vauxhall key and separate bipper though. biggrin