Meguiars NXT Tech Wax
Discussion
I picked up some Meguiars NXT Tech Wax at Goodwood recently and the results seem to be pretty good. I've searched on here but can't find any comments on what folk think. I've never used their products before.
I have generally used Zymol waxes but find them a fiddle to use and was quite impressed with NXT.
Excuse daughter in this shot - she just HAD to be in the photo and do a model pose.
Don't use Meguiar's stuff, but the one and only time was the NXT interior one. Load of crap!
Left a mark on the dash that made it look like it had bleached the thing.
Silicone based, so slick steering wheel and handbrake.
Thanks to another member here alerting me to Einszett, I can't praise their Cockpit Premium highly enough.
I've a few other bits to try as well - their Glanz Wax and Paint Cleaner, which when the Cyclo dual head polisher arrives, I will be with gusto.
Be interesting to see how it compares to the Bilt Hamber Auto Balm I think will be the dog's dangly particles.
Personally, I view Meguiar's as the equivalent to Tesco Value, and I don't rate Autoglym much higher.
Many detailers will suggest AG, but fail to tell you their AG is the more concentrated trade version.
One product getting a lot of attention recently is the Chemical Guys' Jetseal 109, and a few waves are being made by Duragloss.
If you prefer the full synthetic product rather than semi-synth carnuaba based, then my money is still on Zaino.
Left a mark on the dash that made it look like it had bleached the thing.
Silicone based, so slick steering wheel and handbrake.
Thanks to another member here alerting me to Einszett, I can't praise their Cockpit Premium highly enough.
I've a few other bits to try as well - their Glanz Wax and Paint Cleaner, which when the Cyclo dual head polisher arrives, I will be with gusto.
Be interesting to see how it compares to the Bilt Hamber Auto Balm I think will be the dog's dangly particles.
Personally, I view Meguiar's as the equivalent to Tesco Value, and I don't rate Autoglym much higher.
Many detailers will suggest AG, but fail to tell you their AG is the more concentrated trade version.
One product getting a lot of attention recently is the Chemical Guys' Jetseal 109, and a few waves are being made by Duragloss.
If you prefer the full synthetic product rather than semi-synth carnuaba based, then my money is still on Zaino.
PJS - you generalise too much!
certain off the shelf Megs products are great - Gold shampoo (in my case in conjunction with Snow Foam) - Ultimate Detailer
then from the 'trade' range - which is far cheaper - APC and Last Touch Detailer
as for AG - again from their off the shelf range - Bumper Care and Fast Glass are still market leaders and used by 'pro' detailers
no company makes the best of everything - you need to pick and chooose if you have the time/inclination?
Poorboys Natural Look - i find best for interiors without a 'shine' - ditto Poorboys Wheel Sealant for alloys etc to allow easy cleaning without resorting to harsh acidic products!
and as for drying/polishing cloths - that would take a lifetime to discuss though i find the Tesco cheapies at three for less than £1 very good for anything apart from final buffing!!!!
as for Einzsett - things such as their screen wash are sold under another label through Aldi etc for about 98p!!!
certain off the shelf Megs products are great - Gold shampoo (in my case in conjunction with Snow Foam) - Ultimate Detailer
then from the 'trade' range - which is far cheaper - APC and Last Touch Detailer
as for AG - again from their off the shelf range - Bumper Care and Fast Glass are still market leaders and used by 'pro' detailers
no company makes the best of everything - you need to pick and chooose if you have the time/inclination?
Poorboys Natural Look - i find best for interiors without a 'shine' - ditto Poorboys Wheel Sealant for alloys etc to allow easy cleaning without resorting to harsh acidic products!
and as for drying/polishing cloths - that would take a lifetime to discuss though i find the Tesco cheapies at three for less than £1 very good for anything apart from final buffing!!!!
as for Einzsett - things such as their screen wash are sold under another label through Aldi etc for about 98p!!!
Edited by grand cherokee on Monday 24th September 12:13
NXT is OK - but not used mine for months (years maybe?) as the durability's beaten by other products mentioned here quite easily. It does give a good result however and on a non daily driver would work just fine.
As for ease of use vs Zymol, yes in terms of wipe on, wait 15 minutes then buff vs apply & buff HD Cleanse panel by panel, apply wax, buff, wait 30 minutes and re-buff but personally, the final result for me is well worth the extra effort.
Zaino has knocked me sideways recently - as easy to use as NXT (perhaps easier? NXT can clog an applicator in my experience) and the results are absolutely fantastic. The products aren't cheap but if you want "the best" in terms of how your car looks, you'll try a few different things along the way - that's my well worn excuse to SWMBO anyway....!
As for ease of use vs Zymol, yes in terms of wipe on, wait 15 minutes then buff vs apply & buff HD Cleanse panel by panel, apply wax, buff, wait 30 minutes and re-buff but personally, the final result for me is well worth the extra effort.
Zaino has knocked me sideways recently - as easy to use as NXT (perhaps easier? NXT can clog an applicator in my experience) and the results are absolutely fantastic. The products aren't cheap but if you want "the best" in terms of how your car looks, you'll try a few different things along the way - that's my well worn excuse to SWMBO anyway....!
grand cherokee said:
certain off the shelf Megs products are great - Gold shampoo (in my case in conjunction with Snow Foam) - Ultimate Detailer
then from the 'trade' range - which is far cheaper - APC and Last Touch Detailer
as for AG - again from their off the shelf range - Bumper Care and Fast Glass are still market leaders and used by 'pro' detailers
no company makes the best of everything - you need to pick and chooose if you have the time/inclination?
Poorboys Natural Look - i find best for interiors without a 'shine' - ditto Poorboys Wheel Sealant for alloys etc to allow easy cleaning without resorting to harsh acidic products!
and as for drying/polishing cloths - that would take a lifetime to discuss though i find the Tesco cheapies at three for less than £1 very good for anything apart from final buffing!!!!
as for Einzsett - things such as their screen wash are sold under another label through Aldi etc for about 98p!!!
Agree 110% - Meguiars' "trade" range (i.e. bulk products and polishes) are amongst the best available in terms of how they work and the results they give (especially against certain polishes which are very climate sensitive indeed) although I don't rate their wax/sealant products as being "the best".then from the 'trade' range - which is far cheaper - APC and Last Touch Detailer
as for AG - again from their off the shelf range - Bumper Care and Fast Glass are still market leaders and used by 'pro' detailers
no company makes the best of everything - you need to pick and chooose if you have the time/inclination?
Poorboys Natural Look - i find best for interiors without a 'shine' - ditto Poorboys Wheel Sealant for alloys etc to allow easy cleaning without resorting to harsh acidic products!
and as for drying/polishing cloths - that would take a lifetime to discuss though i find the Tesco cheapies at three for less than £1 very good for anything apart from final buffing!!!!
as for Einzsett - things such as their screen wash are sold under another label through Aldi etc for about 98p!!!
Edited by grand cherokee on Monday 24th September 12:13
Einszett - still a relative sleeper in the UK and Cockpit Premium is (apart from the slightly toilet cleaner fragrance) unbeatable on most interior plastics - it doesn't work as well in my 205 as the Vectra & Clio but that's shiny, brittle 80's French plastic vs more modern materials I suppose!
It's all about finding products you like and can work with to produce the results you want - which I reckon means there's little right vs wrong TBH
Assuming the Aldi/Lidl one is just as concentrated and same size (250ml), then fair point.
Interesting about the Poorboy's - one of their guys championed the wheel cleaner (non acidic) from Autobrite. Interesting on the basis as an importer of a particular brand, you'd claim another's was much better.
Of course, it's refreshing to hear such honesty in an industry that trades heavily on being not quite so honest or being very economical with the truth - as far as product manufacturers' claims are. The detailers (generally) are worth their salt.
As for my generalisations of AG and Meg - whilst they may indeed have a couple of useful products, the vast majority of people who walk into Halfords (or wherever else sells the brands) would buy the same branded products without thinking.
I've not tried Gold Class but one poor showing by one of their NXT (next generation - supposedly their best products!) was enough for me to know they are a company trading basically on their name's strength rather than their products.
One good product does not make up for their poor-average remainder, hence the generalisation.
When you have a range of top products, like Zaino and Chemical Guys seem to have, then you know you're dealing with companies who've strived to make the best products, not the ones that maximise the cost : profit ratio.
Interesting about the Poorboy's - one of their guys championed the wheel cleaner (non acidic) from Autobrite. Interesting on the basis as an importer of a particular brand, you'd claim another's was much better.
Of course, it's refreshing to hear such honesty in an industry that trades heavily on being not quite so honest or being very economical with the truth - as far as product manufacturers' claims are. The detailers (generally) are worth their salt.
As for my generalisations of AG and Meg - whilst they may indeed have a couple of useful products, the vast majority of people who walk into Halfords (or wherever else sells the brands) would buy the same branded products without thinking.
I've not tried Gold Class but one poor showing by one of their NXT (next generation - supposedly their best products!) was enough for me to know they are a company trading basically on their name's strength rather than their products.
One good product does not make up for their poor-average remainder, hence the generalisation.
When you have a range of top products, like Zaino and Chemical Guys seem to have, then you know you're dealing with companies who've strived to make the best products, not the ones that maximise the cost : profit ratio.
Edited by PJ S on Monday 24th September 13:53
PJ S said:
grand cherokee said:
funny you mention Autobrite!! - if they were the last company on earth i would never deal with them
their attitude stinks imo!!
And yet people buy their Snow Foam and foam lances from them.their attitude stinks imo!!
Me thinks you're generalising too much.
Funny that!
and when a fault was found with said lances the alternative supplier replaced them free of charge
Edited by grand cherokee on Tuesday 25th September 04:57
Based on comments here I've just ordered Zaino Z-2 Pro and will give it a go.
I had not really heard about Meguiars before, saw a couple of ads and bought the wax as an impulse at Goodwood. The result on the GT (red), Bentley (black) and Range Rover (v dark blue) has been impressive. Easy to use and a slick shine.
I'm simply looking for the best result for the least amount of effort. I'm confident this doesn't make me a bad person!
Thanks for the feedback though, very interesting to me.... I'm not a detailing expert and have found Zymol too much work.
I've used all the usual suspects culminating with Zymol which I felt was a real pain in the ass to use...........
Now I use megs NXT wash and Tech wax on the Ferrari and the results are outstanding.....the initial preparation process with poorboys products has to be carried out correctly though ie:- clay, cleanse, polish then add the megs wax....
I find the products easy to use and the wax leaves none of that annoying residue that takes forever to get off the car.
My car looks fantastic and shows good beading on the rare occasion it gets rained upon.
The finish is only as good as the preparation so even using the best wax in the world, it will still look sheite if it is applied to a poorly prepped surface.
Only my two penneth but it works for me........
Now I use megs NXT wash and Tech wax on the Ferrari and the results are outstanding.....the initial preparation process with poorboys products has to be carried out correctly though ie:- clay, cleanse, polish then add the megs wax....
I find the products easy to use and the wax leaves none of that annoying residue that takes forever to get off the car.
My car looks fantastic and shows good beading on the rare occasion it gets rained upon.
The finish is only as good as the preparation so even using the best wax in the world, it will still look sheite if it is applied to a poorly prepped surface.
Only my two penneth but it works for me........
taaffy said:
I've used all the usual suspects culminating with Zymol which I felt was a real pain in the ass to use...........
Now I use megs NXT wash and Tech wax on the Ferrari and the results are outstanding.....the initial preparation process with poorboys products has to be carried out correctly though ie:- clay, cleanse, polish then add the megs wax....
I find the products easy to use and the wax leaves none of that annoying residue that takes forever to get off the car.
My car looks fantastic and shows good beading on the rare occasion it gets rained upon.
The finish is only as good as the preparation so even using the best wax in the world, it will still look sheite if it is applied to a poorly prepped surface.
Only my two penneth but it works for me........
And a very useful two penneth it was too!Now I use megs NXT wash and Tech wax on the Ferrari and the results are outstanding.....the initial preparation process with poorboys products has to be carried out correctly though ie:- clay, cleanse, polish then add the megs wax....
I find the products easy to use and the wax leaves none of that annoying residue that takes forever to get off the car.
My car looks fantastic and shows good beading on the rare occasion it gets rained upon.
The finish is only as good as the preparation so even using the best wax in the world, it will still look sheite if it is applied to a poorly prepped surface.
Only my two penneth but it works for me........
Funnily enough, I've only just plucked up the courage to open the 2 year old tin of Zymol clay bar and use it! Never having used the stuff, I was a little anxious about what it might or might not do. So I used it on the bonnet of my dark blue Range Rover which was looking a little unloved. Then I added the NXT wax. The results were extremely good and I'm now a convert to the clay bar...
There is one major flaw in the detailing phenomenon and it is this .....read on I'll get there in the end...
My pride and joy had the obligatory swirls and scratching from a previous owners poor wash techniques so I thought that I would give her a lot of tlc.....
I bought a Porter Cable random orbital polisher and a selection of poorboys detailing products.......
I then followed a strict wash, clay and swirl removing program before adding the wax to finish....total time taken circa 10 hours
The car looked amazing with No scratches or swirls to be seen....
So now after a few washes using the 2 bucket method a few minor scratches have appeared and they are more noticible than before I detailed her.....
So,having spent soooo much time improving the paintwork it would seem that I have just magnified any new imperfections which are impossible to prevent even with the gentlest of washing.
Perfection is not achievable ....... so why worry.....
My pride and joy had the obligatory swirls and scratching from a previous owners poor wash techniques so I thought that I would give her a lot of tlc.....
I bought a Porter Cable random orbital polisher and a selection of poorboys detailing products.......
I then followed a strict wash, clay and swirl removing program before adding the wax to finish....total time taken circa 10 hours
The car looked amazing with No scratches or swirls to be seen....
So now after a few washes using the 2 bucket method a few minor scratches have appeared and they are more noticible than before I detailed her.....
So,having spent soooo much time improving the paintwork it would seem that I have just magnified any new imperfections which are impossible to prevent even with the gentlest of washing.
Perfection is not achievable ....... so why worry.....
I don't think I'd ever advance on any of my cars with a drill going! I just wouldn't trust myself.
Interesting that the minor imperfections seem to show up more... As you say, perfection is impossible.
My Ford has so many angles, swoops and curves that minor flaws are not really noticeable. The Range Rover is normally dirty - but the Bentley, which is black, does have some large panels. It looks OK to good at the moment with the Meguiars though - mind you it's only got about 3,000 on the clock, so it should.
Interesting also that you'd 'cleanse' after using the clay bar. I was rather hoping that clay bar and waxing alone would be enough.
It's a never ending saga this washing business.
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