Clarkson - 3 Series diesel better than a GT3??

[hendy]

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_styl...


I've heard it all now.

[AdamT]

Clearly he is an idiot.

I would gladly putting money on a 997 RS easily matching some POS BMW diesel which is stripped and has slicks.

[johnfm]

Don't feed the Clarkson troll. He would be an unknown, average hack journo if he didn't write contentious stuff about cars, the environment, women, the French etc etc

[PHOENIXUK]

On the whole I enjoy watching/reading Clarkson, but unfortunatly it has taken him 20 odd years in motoring journalism to realise what all of us who do track days already take for granted, give a car as much power as you like but tyres, brakes and weight make the real difference. Its just a shame he has shown his ignorance by speaking of the GT3RS, If you put slicks on a wood burning BMW he should think a little and imagine what it would do for the GT3RS. Mr Tiff would never have made such a ridiculous statment, as he is a man who lives in both worlds and not like Jeremy in an imagined one.

[Marki]

He is a cock

[DSM2]

I guess he is only trying to stress the difference between a race car and a road car, in his usual exaggerated terms.

Most people don't realise that there is such a huge difference, but of course it can't be achieved by just throwing slicks and big brakes on.

[968CSReading]

What a to**er. Can you go down the shops in your BMW race car or use it everyday? No.

He just cant get his fat a**e into a GT3RS so that why he doesnt like it (plus he hates Porsche I suppose)

[9hellheaven]

Its bait..and you lot are fighting to be the first on the hook!

[ph123]

Think you guys are taking him seriously.
BIG mistake.

[supermono]

Isn't it obvious that Clarkson's style -- which I find hugely enjoyable -- is to over state everything? You have to read him in the right context then he's a star.

But all you Clarkson knockers should remember that there's a diminishing pool of pro-car people in the public eye fast being replaced by these infernel non-producing, eco-nutters intent on getting us back into the caves.

We should be bloody grateful that he's fighting our corner.

SM

[Scockers]

supermono said:

We should be bloody grateful that he's fighting our corner.

SM

Agreed

[tonikaram]

I enjoy watching clarkson too, and very much. Except that i have to continuously make an effort not to listen to the substence of what he is saying, because it's always exagerated not-completely-factual, opinionated bull.

It's fun to watch, but when he bashes the cayman on a racetrack continuously collides with logic on every occasion, it kind of looses its point on the long run (not yet for me though, I still enjoy him).

Usually, I watch him for the fun and listen to James May and Hamster to know about the car.

Kay

[r5gttgaz]

...and now we will have BMW drivers thinking they can beat everything on the road.














































Hang about!

[PHOENIXUK]

Even Clarkson isn't that daft!!

[r5gttgaz]

The man is a known hater of Porsches, perhaps because they take a bit of talent to get get the best out of. The BMW will have made him feel like God because he could probably drive at 110% of his limit but be at about 25% of the cars.

[Conian]

It's just his latest sound-bite... for someone who hates Porsche like Clarkson does, dont forget that he put the 911 GT3 in his Top 100 at ... um.... was it 2nd or 3rd place?

Can't see him putting an M3 THAT high can you?
Edited because I didn't proof-read my post for accuracy

Edited by Conian on Tuesday 25th September 14:44

[Steve Rance]

Interesting. A well driven standard 997RS will lap Silverstone around about 8 seconds a lap quicker than the topgear BMW driven by the stig.

Other than that little detail, he's absolutely sopt on...

[9hellheaven]

He doesnt hate Porsche you lemon drops!..But he does like winding up the people who love em!!...I think hes a funny guy, and makese laugh no end at the reaction he gets from every day folk. Quite a talent..or is it that his audience is a bit...........
If you can keep in the public eye by generaly not being liked..thats clever stuff!!!

[Slippydiff]

Scockers said:

supermono said:

We should be bloody grateful that he's fighting our corner.

SM

Agreed

He's not (nor indeed are any of the current motoring programmes) he's lining his own pocket and giving the impression he's fighting our corner.
His publicising of all performance cars as being driven by petrolheads who think every corner on the road should be taken sideways with smoke pouring out of the the rear wheel arches (overlaid with the squealing of tortured rubber) is just what we need to make the do gooders realise they've got us all wrong.

He's a self publicising t*sser who's become successful by being contentious, outspoken and an insufferable oaf.

Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 25th September 15:06

[supermono]

Slippydiff said:

Scockers said:

supermono said:

We should be bloody grateful that he's fighting our corner.

SM

Agreed

He's not (nor indeed are any of the current motoring programmes) he's lining his own pocket and giving the impression he's fighting our corner.
His publicising of all performance cars as being driven by petrolheads who think every corner on the road should be taken sideways with smoke pouring out of the the rear wheel arches (overlaid with the squealing of tortured rubber) is just what we need to make the do gooders realise they've got us all wrong.

He's a self publicising t*sser who's become successful by being contentious, outspoken and an insufferable oaf.

Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 25th September 15:06

But that's exactly what we do or strive to do. Mankind has spent the last 100 years creating machines that can accelerate, brake, corner, etc like this. They need to be celebrated because they're wonderful! They allow people to experience stuff they dreamed of as kids, and we need people publicising what these sensational machines can do -- and they need to do this with their chests puffed out.

Otherwise the sandal wearing non-producers on bicycles with their constant drone of enviroboocks will stifle the development.

Sure he's lining his pockets but in doing so he's celebrating the technological advances that bring us GT2s etc.

When you see the eurofighter doing cartwheels through the air you don't talk like this I'm sure, what's the difference when you see a BMW going sideways with its tyres on fire?

I honestly think the guy is spot on.

SM