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tom_loughlin

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371 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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After getting my (well, the cars) ignition module replaced, she at least made an effort to fire.
Assuming none of the plug leads are guaranteed in the correct place, can someone please let me the simplest methoud offiguring out what dizzy output goes to each plug. I know the cylinder order - odds on passender, and evens on driver side, and the dizzy rotates clockwise from above - but has anyone got any ideas where t go from there.
For a start, I connected only the coil and cylinder #1, and tried on all 8 dizzy outputs, only one made any attempt to fire, so I connected the leads in order from there, but it sounds like she's only firing every other crank.
If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know, as the poor car is stuck outside in the rain and I want to put her in the garage, and enjoy it when the weather clears up.

Thanks guys

Tom

Cider Andy

1,889 posts

255 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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And you know the firing order? 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

239 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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got an imobiliser?

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Its really easy to wet the plugs, which it sounds like you have well & truly fouled. Put it back together, with new plugs and it will probably fire up.

Dave

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

314 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Sorting ignition problems in the rain is almost certainly going to end in failure. I suggest pushing it into the garage (at least far enough to get the engine bay under cover) before you go any further.

Do you have any tools there? Can you turn the engine over slowly? It's possible, but a right pita, to do this just by pushing the car in gear. Far better to get a socket on the front pulley if you have the tools available. Then take out #1 plug and turn it over slowly with your thumb over the hole until you feel compression, when the compression stops you know you're around TDC on the firing stroke. Take the dizzy cap off and see which post the rotor arm is pointing to, connect the #1 lead to that post and work around the other leads in order.

Since you've work on the LT side too, you need to consider that the LT side may be wrong, in particular check that the trigger wire to the ECU is intact. If you're getting fuel in (plugs wet) I think it's safe to assume this is working. The next problem is that the engine is probably flooded by now, if not it soon will be if you keep trying to start it with an ignition fault. You also need to ensure that the battery is kept charged up; if the battery is starting to flag then all this gets a lot harder.

tom_loughlin

Original Poster:

371 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Thanks for all your help guys, I think the engie is well and truly flooded by now.
I have some new plugs on order, but don't want to flood them too - so I will be finding TDC and going that route.
Many thanks for all your help - I will update my progress here.
As for pushing it into my garage, I would love to, but I like on a hill, and that would never happen... It took 6 of us to push my old Se7en into the garage, and managed to burn out the starter...Never again

Thanks again

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Don't worry, all those flatlanders will get drowned first when the floods come hehe

Dave
Pay back for the luxury of having flat drives & garages ha!