993 Xenons
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GilesAMorse

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377 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Anyone know anywhere good to get them done?

Any particular considerations?

Thanks,

Giles

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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I got a kit from ACE Parts - £120 from memory - top quality mod thumbup

It's a DIY job apparently, but I'm hopeless with a screwdriver and kept putting it off so eventually got my local indie specialist to fit it for me - 1 hours labour.

Alan from ACE Parts posted up a "how to install" thread for his kit on 911uk.com. There are also various generic HID installation threads with helpful pics on here.

Guest

96 posts

288 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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FYI - apparently the 993 Xenon kit was only available for LHD cars...

If you have a RHD 993, may be worth checking out some high performance halogen bulbs - e.g. Philips VisionPlus...

www.lighting.philips.com/in_en/consumer/carlightin...

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+ Recommended Award - Beam: 95.1m +

"Philips top-of-the-range option is a superb bulb which performed comfortably ahead of the plus 30% premium versions. You just cannot ignore the performance, which is why the Vision Plus merits our Recommended award."

http://www.1stautobulbs.com/AutoExpress.php

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PH5121

2,007 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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That is a little cheaper than a set from Carnewal, who are about £1717, but thier price will be for genuine Porsche units.
I have been thinking about them as an upgrade to my new 993, but as I haven't driven it in the dark yet I am going to wait and see what the standard lights are like first.

Gaity

247 posts

260 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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PH5121 said:
That is a little cheaper than a set from Carnewal, who are about £1717, but thier price will be for genuine Porsche units.
I have been thinking about them as an upgrade to my new 993, but as I haven't driven it in the dark yet I am going to wait and see what the standard lights are like first.
Standard lights are dangerously poor, considering the performance of the vehicle. FORGET REPLACEMENT HALOGEN BULBS. Not sure about LHD only for Porsche xenons (Litronic) but they are hugely expensive anyway. There is nothing wrong with fitting the aftermarket HID kits as supplied by Alan at Aceparts - I have (as have many on this forum) and couldn't believe the difference. Highly recommended upgrade. With winter coming there seems to be quite a lot of forum activity on this subject.

Trevor

GilesAMorse

Original Poster:

377 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Do ACE have a website?

Similarly, haven't driven my car at night anywhere but in London yet but have heard that 993 light are notoriously shite.

Giles

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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GilesAMorse said:
Do ACE have a website?
aceparts.com - although when I was looking for a kit a few months back, the HID kits weren't listed on there so I had to PM Alan through his PH profile and he told me to just PayPal him the money and he'd ensure he sent me the right one.

Which he did. And even threw in a paid of LED sidelights and clear side indicator lenses FOC. I must get around to replacing the sidelights - they look odd with the yellow OEM bulbs contrasting with the HID headlights.

The OEM headlights are shocking. You could achieve better illumination by mounting a couple of candles on the front bumper.....

Edited by Lurking Lawyer on Thursday 27th September 13:09

Gaity

247 posts

260 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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GilesAMorse said:
Do ACE have a website?

Similarly, haven't driven my car at night anywhere but in London yet but have heard that 993 light are notoriously shite.

Giles
Website here - http://www.aceparts.com/


May be beneficial to email him direct at alan@aceparts.com - (used to give discount to PHers)

GilesAMorse

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377 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Lurking Lawyer said:
And even through in a paid of LED sidelights and clear side indicator lenses FOC.
What's name on here? I'd like to see if I can get the same deal!

Giles

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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GilesAMorse said:
What's name on here? I'd like to see if I can get the same deal!
ACEParts_com - see profile linked below

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0...

GilesAMorse

Original Poster:

377 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Thanks all - just spoke to Alan and ordering them now.

Wil get Tognola Engineering to fit them as I'm not capable of doing anything more complex than changing a tyre.

Giles

EK993

1,957 posts

282 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Best upgrade money you will spend on the car. The standard lights are shockingly poor. Upgraded silver star bulbs made little or no difference.

I installed a Phillips HID kit on my C2, was about £500 back in 2001, the results were fantastic.

Guest

96 posts

288 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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On a RHD 993, Philips VisionPlus halogen bulbs were about 50% better than the standard halogen lamps - but not as impressive as the full litronic/xenons...

With an upgrade cost of less than GBP30, they seem to offer decent relative value and are certainly a viable alternative.

rlw

3,590 posts

268 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Check out HIDS4U on the web but avoid 6000k bulds which are too blue.

Ballcock

3,855 posts

250 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Alan , if you're reading this , any chance you'd post the instructions for attaching your xenons on here?

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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I'm not Alan but I'm sure he won't mind me cutting and pasting what he posted on 911uk.com (which I bookmarked a while back, when I was contemplating fitting the kit myself)

Aceparts_com said:
I've been meaning to write the 5 minute installation guide for the 993's....

OK, take the bulb, pull the low voltage red and black wires from the grommet. Cut the remainder of the grommet off.
Install the bulb (most 993's require a minor amount of filing of the hole to remove any 'flashing' left behind when casting)

Now take a small file and make two 'notches' at the top of the light where the cover fits on. The cover has a gasket on it so there's no chance of it leaking even if water could find its way in there.

Go to halfords, pick up 2 x velcro patches. Velcro the ballasts on the inner wing under the carpet so that all the wires face the LARGE grommet that goes through the wing.
Now find something hard and finger size and lubricate well with lubricant of your choice - open up the grommet and feed both the HIGH and low voltage wires through to under the wing.

We're going to wire the ballast directly into the 12v feed for the headlights. This means that when the headlight is removed you only have to undo the high voltage wires and should you ever need to put a normal bulb back in, the power is still in the headlamp for you to do this.

Twist the multi plug socket that the headlamp plugs in to 90 degrees and pull out. The bottom right pin and the one above it have a yellow and brown wire in them - this is where you connect the red and black wires for the power.

Connect the HID bulb wires to the ballast (under the wing) and turn the lights on to test (you don't need to re-install the headlamp to test it.

Everyone got that? Good. No more drilling holes in the Pork please.

LanCat

423 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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Ballcock said:
any chance you'd post the instructions for attaching your xenons on here?
There's some instructions on p-car at http://p-car.com/diy/aftermarkethid/

I found a pdf for the hids4u install a while back too. I put it at http://www.mediafire.com/?3lbz0z2mut3 if you want to check that out too.

It's on my list of must-do upgrades too!


Silver993tt

9,064 posts

270 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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The HIDS4U were extremely easy to install, took me about 30mins.

ACEparts_com

3,724 posts

272 months

Thursday 27th September 2007
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I wondered why I had a sudden influx of HID sales. Cheers, i'll go pick up my GT2 now smile

If you follow my instructions (or better still, wait a week and i'll have the pictures to back them up) you'll end up with a factory look install without the need to drill great big holes all over the place.

Ballcock

3,855 posts

250 months

Friday 28th September 2007
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Thanks Al , I haven't driven in the dark yet .. I'm sure I'll be on to you as soon as I have biggrin