Planning Permission - Advice Needed

[Naughty Magpie]

We have some land, and we are not sure if planning permission would be available on it. We want an opinion on whether or not its worth pursuing before we start spending loads of money on architects etc.
How do we go about doing that?

[baSkey]

call to the local planning department.

if it's a just a field or something you have very little chance. if it's land between other properites you have more of a chance. if it's the latter with some sort of structure on there you've got more chance again.

[Jasandjules]

Is it a garden? Brownfield site? Built up area? Between two houses?

But your local Planning Office will be the best place to start - they can even help sometimes.

Edited by Jasandjules on Friday 28th September 13:35

[Davi]

Jasandjules said:

But your local Planning Office will be the best place to start - they can even help sometimes.

especially if you can get to know one of the officials, then hand them a brown envelope containing crisp bank notes (under the table of course, try not to make it too obvious)

IMO Planning has to be one of the most corrupt area's of local council going.

[baSkey]

^i think that's actually a touch unfair!

Planning Officers whilst often are a bit jobsworthy are okay. it's the members of the planning committee who know fvck all about anything who you want to befriend down the pub/golf club/his own butchers shop...!

[grass widow]

We have a piece of land we want to know if we can get planning permssion on, MOH went to the local office and asked if he could have a word with one of the planning officers. Only to be told they were too busy and no longer offered that service you had to put in plans.

[Davi]

baSkey said:

^i think that's actually a touch unfair!

Planning Officers whilst often are a bit jobsworthy are okay. it's the members of the planning committee who know fvck all about anything who you want to befriend down the pub/golf club/his own butchers shop...!

LOL very true, and a very good point - I retract my earlier statement or at least the parties blamed in it

[baSkey]

grass widow said:

We have a piece of land we want to know if we can get planning permssion on, MOH went to the local office and asked if he could have a word with one of the planning officers. Only to be told they were too busy and no longer offered that service you had to put in plans.

but you don't know that unless you ask do you..?!

[Naughty Magpie]

Rough outlines of everything.

Edited by Naughty Magpie on Friday 28th September 13:59

Edited by Naughty Magpie on Friday 28th September 14:09

[baSkey]

my guess is the top one will be easier than the bottom one. nearer the other houses and off a mediumishly trafficked road (right??).

the bottom one will that be next to a hauliers? and the hauliers is accessed by a single track road? it's the wrong side of the big house(??) which is the one you're carving the land out of (right??)

there's a guy on here who buys land for a large builder.. hopefully he'll be along soon..!

[thewave]

Can't see why not, and subject to some conditions, the sale of land attached to a property is free from capital gains tax too.

[scotal]

Naughty Magpie said:

Rough outlines of everything.

Edited by Naughty Magpie on Friday 28th September 13:59

That's going to dpend on clever stuff like the boundary of the village envelope, the local planners view on housing density, and the local authorities development guidelines.

[IRM]

have a look on the planning portal at the council's development plan polices and map

that will give you an idea about the zoning/classification of the land (the map will)

not all are on the planning portal so you may need to go to the council's web site, section is now found under environment and planning.

Some planning consultants will give a few minutes free time and advice see rtpi web site

as for spending a bit, a few hundred now is better than a few £1000 and a refusal through bad advice

[Simpo Two]

Remind them the Government needs to build 26,000 houses a week every week for the next 100 years and you're helping them meet their target.

NB Is that Magpie Hall in the middle?

Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 28th September 14:37

[Tuna]

Simpo Two said:

Remind them the Government needs to build 26,000 houses a week every week for the next 100 years and you're helping them meet their target.

That argument only works with planners if you put in to build a mini housing estate.

From the pictures, it looks like you're talking about rather upmarket houses with a fair sized garden on the edge of a village. These can be the hardest to get permission for, as local politics can get quite complex. Your relationships with your neighbours can be quite important, and the location of the village boundary, green belt land and so on can make or break the case for building. If there are good views towards your land from neighbouring villages or public land, this can also have some impact on planning permission.

In short, the first stop is to ask the planning department. They should at least be able to guide you, but don't expect any answers that are binding. You could also try getting in contact with local architects who should be willing to discuss your potential project in an initial free meeting and should have some idea of the likely attitude of the planners in your area.

[GetCarter]

It's really important you ring the local planners and have an informal chat with them... you are much more likely to get permission if you ask for their advice and include them from the beginning. Just chucking in finished plans will be far less liukely to get the go ahead. These people need to feel loved and needed!

ETA - it took me 13 months to get planning - and I had a house on the plot already!

Edited by GetCarter on Friday 28th September 15:11

[Tuna]

GetCarter said:

ETA - it took me 13 months to get planning - and I had a house on the plot already!

Thirteen months? Lightweight.


We've had two children since we applied for planning permission.

[scotal]

GetCarter said:

It's really important you ring the local planners and have an informal chat with them... you are much more likely to get permission if you ask for their advice and include them from the beginning. Just chucking in finished plans will be far less liukely to get the go ahead. These people need to feel loved and needed!

ETA - it took me 13 months to get planning - and I had a house on the plot already!

Your plot is pretty special GC, the planners ought to be pretty careful about what they allow to be built on places like that.
Apologies for the vomit inducing sycophancy.

[scotal]

Tuna said:

GetCarter said:

ETA - it took me 13 months to get planning - and I had a house on the plot already!

Thirteen months? Lightweight.


We've had two children since we applied for planning permission.

You're going to need a bigger caravan no?
I'm assuming the plans were rejected, how much do you get told about a rejection? Is it a case of new plans, start all over again. Or is it a revised gable end here, a lowered roofline there and maybe slightly smaller dormers and bob's your uncle?

[GetCarter]

scotal said:

Your plot is pretty special GC, the planners ought to be pretty careful about what they allow to be built on places like that.

I appreciate your comments... but - their objections?

Too much glass (will cause reflections out to sea for any dolphins with headlamps), need to plant trees (we live in a forest and are not allowed to plant any), what colour will you paint it? (It's a log home, it's wood - and they were told from the outset it'd be brown... er ... wood)

Could have been sorted in one 5 minute phone call, but was stretched out to 13 months... each 'objection' taking 10 weeks to resolve.

Pathetic.

Edited by GetCarter on Friday 28th September 17:24