BMW testing new TC ban with interesting results...

BMW testing new TC ban with interesting results...

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motormania

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Monday 1st October 2007
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Read recently that BMW have been undertaking some track tests with the car in TC Ban mode which comes into play next year and Heidfeld's comments are very interesting...

basically he feels that with TC banned, the cars are much harder than many people thought, including himself, would be to control. Although the first few laps on fresh rubber is easy to predict the cars, once the rubber has worn down the car becomes very nervous. Nick feels that next year will be an interesting season, and he predicts more mistakes from drivers, more overtaking (can't be a bad thing), and the skill of the driver coming back to the fore.

With those thoughts, I do hope that Honda can put Button into a good solid car next year, becuase it would appear that most of the media feel that his smooth driving style would suit the new regs better.

How about McLaren giving him a seat beside Lewis, because Alonso will be back at Renault which is already a done deal behind closed doors.

If we were to get a double brit team line up, who do you think would come out on top in an era post TC?

Edited by motormania on Monday 1st October 13:16

castrolcraig

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207 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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button.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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As far as I'm aware, many if not most of the teams have been testing without using traction control. In the wet I'm sure it'll make things interesting, in the dry I'm not so sure.

Marki

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Monday 1st October 2007
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castrolcraig said:
button.
hehe

Baldylocks

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210 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Did you have to steer it back to 'Who will be Hamiltons team mate next year?' As if we hav'nt got enough LH v FA threads!

Surely Bridgestone will provide different tyres to go with the higher wear rate without TC. That will go some way to lessen the problems Heidfield described I would have thought.

I think your right about this playing into Buttons hands. It will certainly show up the drivers who lack finesse applying the power.

motormania

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Monday 1st October 2007
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frazer guest said:
motormania said:
Alonso will be back at Renault which is already a done deal behind closed doors.

Speculation or fact?
The former, but I would'nt mind betting a few quid it's a done deal smile

Edited by motormania on Monday 1st October 13:24

Get Karter

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202 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Is this ban on traction control going to be as effective as the one on launch control?

The amount of exciting starts we've seen since they brought that in has been staggering rolleyes

F1 is the sport of bending the rules until we're back to the current status quo. Look at the 'drivers' title standings. It should be called the 'teammate' standings.
All you can do is beat your teammate.



zac510

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207 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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The punters are always saying Button's driving style suits the rule changes (no matter what the rule changes actually are).

Fidgits

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230 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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I like the idea of no traction - should make some interesting racing.


Does this mean the launch control has been thrown out too ? smile

Baldylocks

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Monday 1st October 2007
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Get Karter said:
Is this ban on traction control going to be as effective as the one on launch control?
AFAIK all the teams are going to have a standard ECU in 2008, so it should more effective than past 'bans'

RVVUNM

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Monday 1st October 2007
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Back to manual gearboxes.....that will sort them out!

zac510

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Monday 1st October 2007
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RVVUNM said:
Back to manual gearboxes.....that will sort them out!
What does that mean? Would all the drivers with only automatic DVLA licences not be allowed to race?

FourWheelDrift

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285 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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frazer guest said:
motormania said:
Alonso will be back at Renault which is already a done deal behind closed doors.

Edited by motormania on Monday 1st October 13:16
Speculation or fact?
Not fact yet but - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62925

castrolcraig

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Monday 1st October 2007
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zac510 said:
RVVUNM said:
Back to manual gearboxes.....that will sort them out!
What does that mean? Would all the drivers with only automatic DVLA licences not be allowed to race?
that rules star in a reasonably priced automatic car driver Mr christpoher ecclestone out of any carrer change then..rofl

RVVUNM

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Monday 1st October 2007
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Snap...........oh............that was my last rib.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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RVVUNM said:
Back to manual gearboxes.....that will sort them out!
and 5 litre turbo engines, there is a huge need to get power back up (preferably to 1500 bhp levels) then sort out the aerodynamics to allow cars to run close to each other and punch big holes in the air for each other to slip stream and before anyone says 1500 bhp would be too dangerous, i will show you a big long list of people who would love the chance to drive them!!!

zac510

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Monday 1st October 2007
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pablo said:
and 5 litre turbo engines, there is a huge need to get power back up (preferably to 1500 bhp levels) then sort out the aerodynamics to allow cars to run close to each other and punch big holes in the air for each other to slip stream and before anyone says 1500 bhp would be too dangerous, i will show you a big long list of people who would love the chance to drive them!!!
As opposed to the tiny list of people who want to drive modern F1 cars?

Sorry, just feeling the devil's advocate today smile

castrolcraig

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Monday 1st October 2007
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RVVUNM said:
Snap...........oh............that was my last rib.
yes yes i know it was tacky but i couldnt resist.getmecoat

entropy

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204 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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motormania said:
who do you think would come out on top in an era post TC?

Edited by motormania on Monday 1st October 13:16
The McLarens. Every other team and their software engineers and what-not are struggling with rewriting codes and engine mapping.

Marki

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271 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Well i watched the A1 from Zandvoort yesterday , first time i have watch a whole A1 event and there is more action in one race than you see in a season of F1 smile