Do you think that Lotus HQ is reading us?
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Do they read? I'm sure they do.
Will/can they do anything about what enthusiasts want? Maybe.
Let's see if the 2-Eleven is offered with lots of different engine types, and if the promised SC conversions for the existing cars are offered at a reasonable price for retrofitting... if not, I suspect your question will be answered.
Will/can they do anything about what enthusiasts want? Maybe.
Let's see if the 2-Eleven is offered with lots of different engine types, and if the promised SC conversions for the existing cars are offered at a reasonable price for retrofitting... if not, I suspect your question will be answered.
I know a couple of the lads who post on here, I think you'll find most of the workers are on here! 
So you can be sure they get some feedback from our input & opinions on just about everything, I've always wanted to know who was responsible for signing the K-Series off
obviously not the man from the endurance dept
And whilst were on the subject, can we have a front engined lightweight rwd car with good handling please
So you can be sure they get some feedback from our input & opinions on just about everything, I've always wanted to know who was responsible for signing the K-Series off
obviously not the man from the endurance dept And whilst were on the subject, can we have a front engined lightweight rwd car with good handling please
Edited by cptsideways on Sunday 7th October 23:36
I would imagine they do, but it is perfectly understandable if they have a massive superiority complex when it comes to the drawing board.
Few, if any of us could ever have designed a car within light years of the Elise. It is always easy to critiscise a finished product, especially one you had no part in.
Few, if any of us could ever have designed a car within light years of the Elise. It is always easy to critiscise a finished product, especially one you had no part in.
S Works said:
...or simply ignore and let us get on with footing the bills.
Most car companies take an active interest in things they need to improve - we're a completely free of charge resource for niggles and break down information!Getting a car to be reliable and get a good reputation for this is a major factor in profits.
Edited by RobM77 on Monday 8th October 14:34
In a little utopian dream bubble, yes.
Sorry but I have beef with this. If you're honestly 'watching' to improve and meet the needs/expectations/wishes of your clients, then that means sometimes taking a hit in the books to do the right thing.
Lotus have not (in a number of case I know of), done the right thing and applied lessons learned...
- People have paintwork that is still bubbling that have to argue the toss to get fixed.
- Indicators are still falling out of S2 Elise's, which means the brackets clearly aren't good enough.
- The stupid rheostat issue is now finally resolved, but only at the expense of owners who now have to spend £x00 to get the front of the car taken off, and a new component installed... would Lotus like to replace it on my 2003 car so I don't have to foot the bill?
Doubt it.
Sorry but I have beef with this. If you're honestly 'watching' to improve and meet the needs/expectations/wishes of your clients, then that means sometimes taking a hit in the books to do the right thing.
Lotus have not (in a number of case I know of), done the right thing and applied lessons learned...
- People have paintwork that is still bubbling that have to argue the toss to get fixed.
- Indicators are still falling out of S2 Elise's, which means the brackets clearly aren't good enough.
- The stupid rheostat issue is now finally resolved, but only at the expense of owners who now have to spend £x00 to get the front of the car taken off, and a new component installed... would Lotus like to replace it on my 2003 car so I don't have to foot the bill?
Doubt it.
I am still utterly astound with the new MY08 Elise/Exiges that are coming out.
Obligatory airbags for all of them? WTF?
How can taking away options from the customer be a good thing? Especially when the option is one, that isn't worth a damn (in combination with harnesses) and doesn't fit with the image of the car itself?
I am beginning to feel more and more disgusted with the direction Lotus HQ is taking with the brand. Chapman wouldn't be proud at all.
Obligatory airbags for all of them? WTF?
How can taking away options from the customer be a good thing? Especially when the option is one, that isn't worth a damn (in combination with harnesses) and doesn't fit with the image of the car itself?
I am beginning to feel more and more disgusted with the direction Lotus HQ is taking with the brand. Chapman wouldn't be proud at all.
S Works: 
you're probably right sadly. You might remember me posting pics of when my indicator flew out! Mine was an otherwise immaculate and standard car.
Regarding airbags on MY08 cars, I jolly well hope Lotus are reading this thread, because that'll mean I can never buy another Lotus. Like many others, I rely on the fact that Lotuses can have their steering wheel easily replaced and a spacer fitted to bring the wheel closer. Without that mod, I can barely drive any Elise or Exige - just enough to test drive and that's about it. I would have thought than a non airbag option will always remain for people like me. Anything else would just be madness.
you're probably right sadly. You might remember me posting pics of when my indicator flew out! Mine was an otherwise immaculate and standard car.Regarding airbags on MY08 cars, I jolly well hope Lotus are reading this thread, because that'll mean I can never buy another Lotus. Like many others, I rely on the fact that Lotuses can have their steering wheel easily replaced and a spacer fitted to bring the wheel closer. Without that mod, I can barely drive any Elise or Exige - just enough to test drive and that's about it. I would have thought than a non airbag option will always remain for people like me. Anything else would just be madness.
S Works said:
In a little utopian dream bubble, yes.
Sorry but I have beef with this. If you're honestly 'watching' to improve and meet the needs/expectations/wishes of your clients, then that means sometimes taking a hit in the books to do the right thing.
Lotus have not (in a number of case I know of), done the right thing and applied lessons learned...
- People have paintwork that is still bubbling that have to argue the toss to get fixed.
- Indicators are still falling out of S2 Elise's, which means the brackets clearly aren't good enough.
- The stupid rheostat issue is now finally resolved, but only at the expense of owners who now have to spend £x00 to get the front of the car taken off, and a new component installed... would Lotus like to replace it on my 2003 car so I don't have to foot the bill?
Doubt it.
Niggles. Stop whining you old tart.Sorry but I have beef with this. If you're honestly 'watching' to improve and meet the needs/expectations/wishes of your clients, then that means sometimes taking a hit in the books to do the right thing.
Lotus have not (in a number of case I know of), done the right thing and applied lessons learned...
- People have paintwork that is still bubbling that have to argue the toss to get fixed.
- Indicators are still falling out of S2 Elise's, which means the brackets clearly aren't good enough.
- The stupid rheostat issue is now finally resolved, but only at the expense of owners who now have to spend £x00 to get the front of the car taken off, and a new component installed... would Lotus like to replace it on my 2003 car so I don't have to foot the bill?
Doubt it.
Perhaps they read it/us because it is entertaining!
I'd be surprised if a few didn't take a passing interest in the Lotus forums, particularly SELOC with it's 10k plus user-base and superb technical forum. I'd also be surprised if info much found it's way back in any useful form to the people that matter at Hethel though - ie those that make the decisions and those that hold the purse strings. Lets face it, the S2 is still built using spit and sawdust despite having been mass-produced in the thousands for many years now. How many of the 'niggles' that we all report on a daily basis here have been addressed? Very few given how often the same problems crop up on new cars I'd say!
Gooby said:
S Works said:
In a little utopian dream bubble, yes.
Sorry but I have beef with this. If you're honestly 'watching' to improve and meet the needs/expectations/wishes of your clients, then that means sometimes taking a hit in the books to do the right thing.
Lotus have not (in a number of case I know of), done the right thing and applied lessons learned...
- People have paintwork that is still bubbling that have to argue the toss to get fixed.
- Indicators are still falling out of S2 Elise's, which means the brackets clearly aren't good enough.
- The stupid rheostat issue is now finally resolved, but only at the expense of owners who now have to spend £x00 to get the front of the car taken off, and a new component installed... would Lotus like to replace it on my 2003 car so I don't have to foot the bill?
Doubt it.
Niggles. Stop whining you old tart.Sorry but I have beef with this. If you're honestly 'watching' to improve and meet the needs/expectations/wishes of your clients, then that means sometimes taking a hit in the books to do the right thing.
Lotus have not (in a number of case I know of), done the right thing and applied lessons learned...
- People have paintwork that is still bubbling that have to argue the toss to get fixed.
- Indicators are still falling out of S2 Elise's, which means the brackets clearly aren't good enough.
- The stupid rheostat issue is now finally resolved, but only at the expense of owners who now have to spend £x00 to get the front of the car taken off, and a new component installed... would Lotus like to replace it on my 2003 car so I don't have to foot the bill?
Doubt it.
Perhaps they read it/us because it is entertaining!
S Works said:
Gooby said:
S Works said:
In a little utopian dream bubble, yes.
Sorry but I have beef with this. If you're honestly 'watching' to improve and meet the needs/expectations/wishes of your clients, then that means sometimes taking a hit in the books to do the right thing.
Lotus have not (in a number of case I know of), done the right thing and applied lessons learned...
- People have paintwork that is still bubbling that have to argue the toss to get fixed.
- Indicators are still falling out of S2 Elise's, which means the brackets clearly aren't good enough.
- The stupid rheostat issue is now finally resolved, but only at the expense of owners who now have to spend £x00 to get the front of the car taken off, and a new component installed... would Lotus like to replace it on my 2003 car so I don't have to foot the bill?
Doubt it.
Niggles. Stop whining you old tart.Sorry but I have beef with this. If you're honestly 'watching' to improve and meet the needs/expectations/wishes of your clients, then that means sometimes taking a hit in the books to do the right thing.
Lotus have not (in a number of case I know of), done the right thing and applied lessons learned...
- People have paintwork that is still bubbling that have to argue the toss to get fixed.
- Indicators are still falling out of S2 Elise's, which means the brackets clearly aren't good enough.
- The stupid rheostat issue is now finally resolved, but only at the expense of owners who now have to spend £x00 to get the front of the car taken off, and a new component installed... would Lotus like to replace it on my 2003 car so I don't have to foot the bill?
Doubt it.
Perhaps they read it/us because it is entertaining!
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