Honda conversion residuals

[Mclovin]

Any ideas what the residuals are like on s2 thats had a honda conversion and all the trimmings like nitrons, uprated pads and supercharger.

I'm wanting to decide whether it would be better to buy a good condition s2 elise for approximately £15000 and then spend £15000 on a honda supercharger conversion and £2000 for nitrons and better pads making a approximate total of £32000 or just buy a new exige s for £34000 unregistered. My main concern is that I like to change cars every 2 years doing roughly 8000 miles a year.

[Scuffers]

Mclovin said:

Any ideas what the residuals are like on s2 thats had a honda conversion and all the trimmings like nitrons, uprated pads and supercharger.

I'm wanting to decide whether it would be better to buy a good condition s2 elise for approximately £15000 and then spend £15000 on a honda supercharger conversion and £2000 for nitrons and better pads making a approximate total of £32000 or just buy a new exige s for £34000 unregistered. My main concern is that I like to change cars every 2 years doing roughly 8000 miles a year.

financially, it will not stack up....

that said, the last S2 SC car with *all* the bit's fetched over £30K...

[S Works]

As above, your sums are probably shy of reality. Better to buy a pre-converted car if you're likely to change it. Performance wise, the Honda'd car will knock the Exige S into a cocked hat.

Your best bet would probably be to try and get an Exige 240R for around 30k if you can, most of the depreciation will have been knocked out of it now.

[Mclovin]

For a pre-converted S2 with average use, supercharger, nitrons and better pads/discs what kind of money would I be looking at when one eventually comes around? Last week there was a green elise s2 honda with supercharger up for £25,995 which no longer appears to be online, was that about reasonable money?

[S Works]

It really depends on the overall spec of the car, it's history etc. Very subjective. Around the price you're quoting would be the bottom end for a good SC'd S2 I'd say. Most will be pretty high-spec and well looked after. They don't come onto the market often.

Another option is to try and find an NA car which you can then get the blower put on for ~£3.5k

If I were to sell mine, which I'm not, I'd be wanting a number that was around the £23k mark, and that's for an NA car.

[Mclovin]

To add, on a supercharged honda car are the service costs and intervals similar to the k series and toyota? I have four track days allowed to me on the my insurance and the rest will the roughly 6000 miles of road driving.

[Poltergeist 666]

YHM

Rgds

Jerry

[S Works]

Mclovin said:

To add, on a supercharged honda car are the service costs and intervals similar to the k series and toyota? I have four track days allowed to me on the my insurance and the rest will the roughly 6000 miles of road driving.

Consumables (tyres, pads, discs etc.) will wear out quicker, naturally. Servicing though is a simple affair. Basically you have two levels. a) oil change, b) oil plus plugs.

WAY cheaper than a K series.

[Mclovin]

Someone mentioned in thread entitled "my car is sold" that there is a lot of fiddling required when owning a converted car, is this boocks? Everything I have heard seems to bring me to the conclusion that a converted car is cheaper to run and more fun. The only thing that worries me is whether the car is okay with all the heat generated by a supercharged honda engine.

[bogie]

Mclovin said:

Someone mentioned in thread entitled "my car is sold" that there is a lot of fiddling required when owning a converted car, is this boocks? Everything I have heard seems to bring me to the conclusion that a converted car is cheaper to run and more fun. The only thing that worries me is whether the car is okay with all the heat generated by a supercharged honda engine.

depends on the car...some owners are "natural fiddlers" anyway
..and are continuously tinkering with their cars (like me)

Ive had a SC Honda for 2.5 years, done nearly 30K miles in it (80K total) and not had any heat problems. The kits have extra heatshielding fitted in the right places (as the manifold is the opposite way around to the K series)...I do trackdays, sprints etc so it gets well used

the engine maintenance is actually less - just oil changes...the plugs are good for 60K miles

just go and test drive one, you wont be worrying about anything then except where to find the cash to buy one

[Yee haa!]

stupid question is it chain cam?

[kevin ritson]

S Works said:

WAY cheaper than a K series.

Cheap fuel and tax bills on a K takes care of that

[Mclovin]

Tax is the same on the honda cars isnt it?

[Scuffers]

Yee haa! said:

stupid question is it chain cam?

Not stupid at all, yes K20A have chain driven cams (in line with just about all current engines)

[Yee haa!]

that's good i've got a misplaced paranoia of belts snapping

edit: I thought the tax remained the same too?

Edited by Yee haa! on Wednesday 10th October 18:51

[Scuffers]

Yee haa! said:

that's good i've got a misplaced paranoia of belts snapping

edit: I thought the tax remained the same too?

Edited by Yee haa! on Wednesday 10th October 18:51

Tax??

if you mean VED, it makes no difference.

[S Works]

What bogie said. I've spent a fair amount on mine in the year I've had it, but most of that has been bling tat and consumables. I don't fiddle at all (apart from the Nitrons on trackdays).

[Mclovin]

So basically you get supercar performance and looks for hot hatch running costs.

[S Works]

Er, no.

You get lower servicing bills, but you'll go through tyres, pads, discs etc. at a greater rate. No Elise is going to be hot-hatch money to run, no matter what anyone tells you. It won't however be Porsche/Fezza/TVR money if you get a good one.

[4pot]

Erm, my S2 Honda's for sale. Check the classifieds on PH or SELOC.

Rich